Beanz

Class always shows through in the end

Sorry if you now a proper ornitholigist they cannot when flying as they take off yes and the crap on your washing is either wood pigeons or doves there aren't only pigeons flying about you know

before I ever tried widowhood I watched another fanciers widowhood cocks in the basket and one of them was roaring round the basket, being a bit thick as regards widowhood flying I told him that was keyed up and would probably win, his reply was yes its keyed up but it won't win by the time it gets to the racepoint it will be knackered, always have the quiet ones which show there vitality when racing. By the way he won the race but not with that pigeon told me it came about 30 minutes after his first bird.

it is in fact true that pigeons cannot deficate whilst flying, you only need to watch your own birds when they land from a race or come off sitting they deficate on the loft or platform but not when flying.

racers best to best, stock son of best to daughter of next best or vice versa,

Everything week after Blackpool

There should be no seperation for sex offenders, they should be thrown to the other inmates and see how they like it.

If there is a sale of pigeons which you like let them have the sale and then see if they have any after as this way if you are lucky to buy any thay will be the ones they wanted to keep themselves.

Let them out when ever I can, but at the moment they don't want to fly so don't make them, just clean out and get them back in

Versel laga

Once went to a friend of mine when he was cleaning out, it was pouring down and freezing cold, his first words to me were what kid in his right mind would come out in this and get filthy cleaning out and freeze when they can sit in front of a computer in a nice warm house, kind of answers the question really I think. Kids just don't want to know.

Once a day when not racing widowhood cocks when racing twice a day, each time we let them out.

Think there must have been a lot of time and effort trying out all the things that are being passed on and probably a lot of Grief as well

Yes and they have now put their prices up so you pay more for the cock ups that they make, what a service if they only did pigeons they would have gone bankrupt by now.

When you read all the help and information given out on the forum, does it not make you think, WHERE THE HELL DOES IT ALL COME FROM ?

I prefer tame pigeons, wild ones don't last in my loft very long no matter where they come from, when I first started up I had a family of pigeons that were very tame and would faollow me round and even come in the house without any need for peanuts and although they must have gone in at some lofts, I never had them reported in lofts in houses, sheds, greenhouses, rabbit hutches and dog kennels yes lofts no.

Red Fox Krauths yep work for HJ have done for the last 16 years, god thats a long time even if you say it quick

Instead of going through the hassle of boiling nettles go to health shop and get nettle teabags about £1 for 20 also Dandelion ones same price good for blood

Bruno, I think I am being very fair most of the fanciers who do use ETS will not have any disability so at least they should be open about it, As I said in my previous post I'm not bothered either way but those who do want it should be up front about it, I don't doubt that some of the fanciers will be thinking about the disabled but most of them won't it will be just for themselves because unfortunately that is the way this great sport of ours has gone selfish.

What ever is left over from racing then high protien mix until moulted and then any good mix but just enough to keep the weight right

Lets cut all the bulls**t, I am not bothered either way if it comes in it does if not then I'm easy with that as well but what does get me fed up is all these fanciers who are in favour using all sorts of excuses to condone it coming in, why not just be honest and say they want to use it because its their choice not any other reason. At the end of the day if all the excuses are correct nobody would use it only the disabled, but as we all know that won't happen. So if you can't be truthful at least be honest.

Beanz because I work for H.J.Heinz

Best wishes Speck

When I time my widowhood cocks in after they have raced they do not even know they have been clocked as they are that keyed up trying to get to the hen they are cooing in your hand and don't even realise you have picked them up.

Mine go in a wire mesh section in my garden shed on a mesh floor and on saddle perches with boards dividing them so they don't look at one another and start to pair, but towards the end of racing they start to pair anyway, but because they have nowhere to go they don't pair properly and still show to the cocks on Friday.