Ronnie

Haha and in the world o fpigeons the chances are he will go top the national and say "no need to treat em now" A great thread and very informative Good luck from saints mate.

i was allways told protein for repairing and carbs for energy.Also the fats (the right sort of fats)contain slow release energy like Peanuts and oats. Slugmonkey do you carb load for the distance race's?

check the weather 50 miler is only an hours fly if the weather is good .its not all about the distance its how they handle the basket and cope with the stress.Also where is the fed going to drag them.Personally i would send the lot the main drag would bring them most of the way and if they cope with stress of the basket they will come ok.

LOl your on a hiding to nothing mate.Good luck and shows your hohnest putting the results up so far. all the best mate

i usually just plaster the open wound with vaseline.

i was in the running for the club channel average's(i know its not the same league) last race was niort and i had to gain 6 hours back niort being near 500 mile to me i knew it was possible.Well after checking the weather again and again i decided not to send the two cocks i fancied (father and son both good birds and best i own) i did however send the other 3cocks and 2 hens i had lined up bear in mind i only had a team of 7 cocks and a few spare hens well come the niort race and the race was held over just as i though it would but then on 6am sunday they were up this shocked me as i was expecting a monday lib.well i won the club 9th fed with a yearling clock at 7:30am the next morning not seen another pigeon.Did i make the right choice ?i believ so .did i win the averages ?no i dont think so but it will still be close ive still gotmy two good cocks and now an unexpected bonus cock who i thought was not much good.On a side note the race was a smash with only a couple on the night and most people losing most of there birds.As a double bonus my best cocks youngster won the young bird race by 4 minutes from 90 mile i know first few races mean nothing but still a nice suprise.

would be interesting to see how people do in the results with different training distance's.My birds allways hold there own in youngbird racing i win a few and take a few cards pity i cant do as well with my old birds but that will come.

lol i'm back to 18miles now theyve had there first race.before that i got them to 30miles starting from 5 miles 15miles 18miles(where they go now) then a couple of 30 miles and back to 18miles they will stay there the rest of the season 3 times a week now.

to be hohnest mate i wouldve expected them together if they where mine.I wouldput it down to a hawk going through them the darkness birds have probably experienced this before so dealt with it better.But you will never no for sure

lol great i will be working on it tomorrow

Thanks fred best i get practising with photoshop Now anyone have any plans on making a box for me to photo the birds? just looked at the linksome good pics there mate a credit to you

yes Slugmonkey please enlighten us its the first time ive heard of it used on pigeons. some great results there Slugmonkey and your advice is not to be sniffed at. back to the post i dont treat for anything but i'm not a top flyer in the club or fed so maybe thats why i am not up there week in and week out just occasionally.

Fred did u use abox to photo the birds? Also what software did you use? sorry to be apain but it would be great to get my own birds photo'd like that without having to pay lol.

Ive found the darkness youngsters are generally fitter(wait for disagreements) than natural they are also more advanced acting like yearling's rather than youngsters could be the natural birds are just not as fit as the darkness birds.Also if a bop go's through them the second round are less prepared to deal with the situation mentally. Hope u get em all in the morning mate

ifi had rings i would take them

feed about 3/4 ounce per head before 11am.If it looks like bad weather i will add a bit more but allways food is removed at or before 11am.

lol

i dont think they need to be raced as long as there trained hard as young bird.

i think letters page is the next option .cant call back from the voicemail cheap tesco phone get what ya pay for i suppose.

lol i know .Just didnt know what else to try .I just hope the guy rings back and dosnt think i'm not interested .

Hi i lost two birds from racing this week and had one reported . The guy rang up and said hi got one of your pigeons ring me back please but didnt leave his number and it was a voicemail on the mobile so i didnt get his number. sounded like a birmingham or maybe south stafford cannock area accent.well if ya read this can u ring me again cheers.

Them yearlings suprise us all .Great result well done to the two of you

well done mate i still get a buzz when i think of my first win

i'm feeling for ya mate had same thing happen last week.back up to 16 youngsters now.I will keep an eye open for ya hope they all work back.

if it saves a youngbird team them surely its worth it? I agree once u have the knowledge its not much but its gaining the knowledge that counts. incedently i'm sure ive read about using this cure in one of the Old hand books not sure what for though.I may be wrong but sure it was an old hand book