I agree with Roland on this if my bird goes into another fanciers loft then he is more than welcome to take the ring ? as this lets me know right away that my bird came under presure , had a 5 yr old come back this year who had his ets removed was missing for a week so some decent fancier had done me a great favour and looked after my bird ,, 5 weeks later this same bird came to win the st alustries france race for me when many good birds did not make it home