Wiley

Train just left the station, will hit quiet a few auctions today see if there's any familiar faces about. Any auctions ppl thinking of going to?

Thank you dal

thats very nice of ya mucker, I'm going to take a look into it and to try and fathom out how it all works before I can say I'll give it a go. But your offer would be very much appreciated

Hi Jim It would be a similar sort of thing but in a podcast format, all interview would be done over the phone so no equipment or extra reporters would be needed if it took off the ground, this is how pigeon radio took off.

It's getting the equipment together Andy, that isn't cheap, if it was going to be a one off thing it would be a waste of time and money, as the basic podcast equipment I've seen is around £170

I wonder if there would be any interest in this sort of thing? interviews with top fanciers on a monthly basis? Years ago we had a pigeon radio station in America, and personally was a big fan of it, would something similar work?

Look forward to seeing you again Lewis to talk doos

You have the chigwell club also

Yellow where in Essex are u may help when trying to find a club? Once you become a member of a club generally people in the club gather round and help with breeding you birds ect?

If ya do some searching there's currently a Bon voucher offered by Sticker Donckers for a 2014 pigeon, currently going for 50 euros

If you've only got a 2 section loft, I think the best idea would be to race natural pigeons in one section and young birds in the other.

Ill be there

Vincent, but isn't it belittling your club mates, if they know your sending half heartedly and not with maximum effort to win?

If you are not racing Darkness down this way, you are right they have a chance first 3 races, but after that the natural men fall to the wayside and are no where near the leading pigeons. Maybe my philosophy on pigeons is wrong but I send to win every race I compete in, whether that be old bird or young bird racing. It's interesting to hear people only send their young birds only for education purposes and have no interest in young bird wins, however for those fanciers that find this valid, a question I must ask is do you have a clock set for these educational races? If so why?

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I maybe made a mistake when I suggested the fancier in question is only a good young bird flyer, he is a good fancier all round.

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Dal, You say you take them off middle of May so roughly 1 month before the so called text books on Darkness suggest( June 21st) what is your reasons behind this and what is the benefit? How are your birds in the moult come the important races in September?

It's is something I should have added, the fancier did say they would still be finishing the wing moult in January but all would complete it. He also states you cannot pair them up early as yearlings, possibly due to the moult I'd imagine Their last race would be around same date as our yb combine Tony, so around middle to end of September, but this fanciers birds come into their own not for just one race but for quiet a few important races prior to the main event.

What is your thoughts on the darkness system? In conversation with a top young bird flyer, who always performs at the combines/nationals and Amalgamations, he believes that people take the birds of the dark system to early, he believes they should be kept on the dark to beginning of August, as he believes it will hold back the form until the big important races come around, However he did state that the birds must be put on the light when he does take them off. What's your thoughts and when do you take your birds of the dark and why?

Myself, and my son have been in pigeons lofts since we both can walk. Done neither of us any harm although I do make him wear a mask.

Got to admit the best team of widows raced I ever saw and raced against was a man racing 8 cocks, his loft was that deep that he could take the pigeons out of their boxes from outside his loft.

Hi Nick It's entirely upto you, we cannot force you to treat your birds, however Johan has suggested treatment if droppings are not good from the results of the culture, and the description of your droppings I personally would follow what he has adviced.

Nick what did Johan suggest to you?