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What's all the fuss about a comedian taking 25% of the poll, They regularly take 100% here in the UK

Good read there Shannon, I know a lot of people breed winner to winner and I guess they must be successful but I can't say it's been a good formula for me, perhaps it's me and not the birds

Yep' Witches hat

As a Saints fan, we want him back

ELOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJQLzc-bco

Roxette http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_qr-eK_zE

Pink Floyd, any brickies out there

Amazingly simple isn't it

The Welsh rules Re. ETS, The pads must not be placed in a position where they can read the chip before the bird is confined in the loft, Now that seems plain and simple to me and not open to interpretation

I think well written rules shouldn't be open to interpretation

Just shows how badly the rules on using ETS have been written, after all this time we still have debates on what is legal and what is not

Yes I think you are right, the ruling on this has been badly worded and obviously causes confusion which is not acceptable, A bit more thought and clearer guide lines are needed

No, Bobs should be down, I think we all accept that pads shouldn't be under landing boards, hence pad in loft on open door before bobs is a no no, after all open door is a big landing board, I think there are a lot of lofts operating their ETS illegally, some mistakenly and many others intentionally, more checks needed I think

There are plenty of lads with early youngsters that must be flying out, one lad on another site was saying he's just weaned his 2nd. round

Sounds perfect

Surely that defeats the system, they just as well use a clock

Yes, it's the bird that has to be confined for timing, I presume this rule is to make it fair to members using clocks

I don't know if your rules there are different but that set-up would be illegal in Wales

Obviously yours are legal as your pads are behind the bobs and the birds would be trapped, I presume you are saying he could shut the door behind the bird

I think that is breaking the rule as it say's, No timing outside a closed loft, which it would be outside of the bobs, I don't think their wording of this rule is very clearly written

Very sad days for you there my friend, my deepest sympathy's to you all

I have one here with me Owen, They are a nightmare.

Unless they change the rules at present the bird has to be confined, trapped, before timing

I think you'll find the pad should be on the other side of the bobs

Why not put the bobs on the front and not need the box?