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I don't want to prejudice any judging appointment lol. Seriously tho a fret is a badge for me. ...on the 1st to 5th fair enough,it's just a hard day or similar. On the last few maybe something checked the moult, like an illness or a stress, it happens. ...Never like them on the tail as babies....but have had them that have moulTed ok and went on to better things

Yep. Most flights flung in June do a wee look at book and a wee look at flight tells you where and when maximum effort was put in....that's the way it was taught to me others might know better or different but I am gan wae that.....Frets only count against in the show pen

You won't get the special birds mate.....unless. ... you abandon the scrapers, training, medication, it's a tough jib but the winners? Well

Here's somebody from an earlier era(like yersel) stress ye wanted? http://www.pigeonbasics.com/articles/article79.html

With the exception of the fret marks obviously......oh and the stress lol

No.....naebody in their right mind

Here's a couple of amateurs talking about moulting http://racingpigeonmedia.com/national-international-winning-fanciers-2/

Never seen a fret mark on an old bird? Naw Peter surely yer gibbering. .....I must be one of these poor fanciers. ...I get ybs, some of my old birds (especially some of the channel birds) have an odd fret and I believe that my birds become stressed by bop,basketting etc!

Peter.........yer talking P*** lol

How can you treat it? You don't know what it is. You manage it so that secondary infections do get ya. If the person that knows why they DON'T get it......well.....they have the fancy at their mercy

Maybe it's no the good fliers and what they do that's the answer and I agree with you 100% on the mismanagement

Glucose and bicarbonate in the drinker on raceday and day after

Only posh folk frae wamphray had teabags lol

Aye thats what she said earlier

Whats it called and i will check wae the chemist when she returns from walking the dogs lol

Well done all good stuff

I have always used drops. If you are going to the chemist for any of the above that I mentioned then dont say its for your pigeons as its not for animal use

Chloramphenicol is available over the counter or hypromellose .......how long have you been treating?

Maxi to eye drops if you can find someone with a prescription lol......hold two mins whilst the pharmacy lady here tells us what the equivalent is lol

I don't see many flies in the loft but the ybs have an aviary so possible

Could they be bringing in from elsewhere? Do they have loft visitors? Do they gan doon the club? These fanciers might hold the answers Tommy

I am as sure as I can be that if I bred yb at the usual time and never bothered TRAINING OR RACING THEM I wouldn't get ybs......but I would be bored.

If an individual member sent 114 to countance and got heee-haw back it would be all over the pigeon grapevine but it seems to be under the radar

What would the fancier have to blame his/her self for for getting young bird sickness?

It's got to the stage that we are ready and expect it. For me it's related to stress or its triggered by the stress