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Nae shame there John just a race to far for a class doo!!

Top stuff fella

In your opinion, and this is not aimed at you mate cos I have nae idea who ye are, how much would you need to improve to be at their standard? And, honestly, is it achievable within your means? We have some excellent fanciers doon here with some results that make you wonder if you can reach them heights?? Is it the same all over?? or are simple goals easier on the pocket and the stress levels??

Top fliers win anywhere do they not?? Top fanciers in disadvantaged areas will beat the others around them a high percentage of the time?? When you get a lot of top fanciers in a small area you get diffo fed and club winners most weeks?? When the fanciers all thrown together the wind and weather have a big say BUT the fanciers that appear a high percentage of the time on these results are the TOP men??? It cannot be taken any other way! You race against yer club, then yer fed and then the big one??? Its all you can do unless you move your loft to where YOU think you will win!!! The prob with that is that it does not guarantee success cos the guys that you have moved to fly against already know how to win in their location???

Ecclefechan?

If it gets to Gretna the morra I will bring to Hamilton the morra nite no probs

Think this statement is all thats required.Personal choice?

All that you have said is true! The eyesign theory alone wont make you a great fancier, either will any of the others,!!! What I was trying to point out was that any new start lookin for advice and reading your post would be of the mind that he simply pairs good to good to get decent ybs and that when he is racing these as old birds that he should not bother handling his bird to inspect the wing moult or anything else??? Yes the eyesign is a THEORY like many others but I am sure that top class fanciers look at things from ALL angles??? Formula 1 teams do not say 'we have the quickest driver so no need for any improvement to the car'. Owen, I am not pissed off with anything that you have said and agree with much, but lets get a balanced view and not just dismiss it and say the rest that dont agree are crackpots!!! Many theories, many potions, many families, many distances and MANY ROADS LEAD TO ROME????? Well done and thanks for the discussion

Good stuff well done

Team Sky and the British olympic team have a MINIMAL GAINS team that work hard to find small gains anywhere they can within their sport??? You have came on and rubbished some values that are held by a lot of fanciers in their hobby?? Are you seriously telling me you never look at the wing of your birds??? I doubt it??? Do you not put any relevance on the state of moult? Surely if anybody intended to race a natural program with hens then the nest cycle would affect the wing moult during nest condition??? I respect your views but surely the goal posts are diffo for each fancier??? Please give the new start or knowledge seeker more pointers than buy good birds and pair them together!!!You will know as well as ME that that good birds breed sh** occasionally!!!How would the fancier pick the wheat from the chaff??? BASKET you will say!!! BUT IN THIS ERA BASKET ILL DECIMATE!!!!

My money is on a solway winner!!!! :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Dont know aboot phone numbers but he certainly has some strange ring numbers!! excellent race he had tho!!!

Well done the timers. Trees were bent double doon here most of the day. Good flying into the west today I think(probs always the case at the YB Nat?

No chance no enuff tea in china!!

Ye yer probs right Derek but you must send with hope and faith in yer doos, we havent sent cos we are poor with the ybs this year but there are others with teams that are flyin well and the section prize is up for grabs so thats wot is to fly for!!! best of luck to all that enter and hope they get a fitting finelly to their season. Yours has been tough Derek, as have others, and a good timer will tide folk over thru the long winter!!! Best of luck to the guys flying in the SNFC wherever they maybe

Dont know aboot winning but hoping one of the family wont be far away doon here!!

Best of luck Frank and hope ye are back soon!

Great doo

His in box is always full!!!! I think thats the way his misses communicates wae him!!!!

We have loads of trophies that nobody is really interested in taking home!!!

Breaking point fair enuff but a fatigue formula would have to be summit special, distance and wind strength together with weather conditions?? hard yin that? Weather diffo yin side to the other or North an south? could that be factored in? I doubt it!

well done

http://www.solwayfederation.co.uk/News/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stafford-on-08_09_121.pdf

If that had been on the High street in Ecclefechan it wudnae have lasted 20secs

Stop them, seperate them and get them thro the moult. You might aswell put three cocks on the road to even up yer numbers?