Probably gan tae get rubbished for this next statement but fook it here it is lol... The miles thing is a lot of nonsense. ...say I fly 400 miles against other fanciers in my sect..we all keep birds to do this distance and condition them for that race distance as well as train them....we have 30 sect prizes up for grabs but mine cones 31 and therefore not eligible for a sect prize. Elsewhere a sect race 500 miles.....again the fanciers in that area keep, conditions and train there birds for the specific task....they have ten prizes but somebody comes eleventh......their bird does qualify???? Is it better than the shorter fancier? What was the wind like? How long did it take to fill the sect prizes??? This is why, in my opinion, the distance can have no bearing in this situation. It would purely be a matter of opinion. ....which it seems to have turned out.