gav, if you have to breed the doo go for a dark hen, whites or white grizzles or gay pied birds dont make the grade up here and i know where youre coming from with the crows and nesting gulls they will kill everything or chase them into wires or poles as i have experienced in the past,blues or dark ceck is best round home and training, start racing then that is a different matter but reds, mealy, silver and pieds with a lot of white in my experience arnt usually there at the tally up at the end of the day . jmho davy.