Roland

Credit of the best!

Don't see any logic in that. The further we stay away from them and their soudo attension grabbing the better. Besides they can'y, and wouldn't be able to do oat.... Just use it as another pubicity stunt to pass their tin around. That's the only time ever they are about.... after so story breaks news in the media. Yes have had dealings with them. YES there is just one covering a vast district. No they don't and won't come out unless there is any milage in it for them ... like above. But any thing like that is best left to us and any 'Body' that is genuine interested. Like if Culprits found the RPRA should prosecute and take action.

Yep sorry too Elvan Willgrass, but seems that the 'Senseless so Crack' has taken over again.

Actually Bruno that is the very point, and if I could fly them to the tree like I would! A big avairy with just nest boxes to shelter in in winter is fine in fact. Knew of a greayt National winner that liturally flew to Nest boxes on posts in a circle as I posted be before! Healthy conditioned birds have all the other needs naturally like Motivation for instance. And as they thrive on company and pecking orders ther natually provide their own healthy and natual mpotivation. It is for OUR peace of mind, our management and our benefit that they are systemised surely! Indeed I'd say that 90% thing that many do and buy is FOR their own benefit and is utterly gabbage fo the birds. Best flyers I've known, and the top fly in our fed is pretty much just fresh water and clean feed... yes he does provide a different mixture throughout the week.... but then he knows where and what they will be doing!

speedy and healthy return Rose

Will either win ... or could well lose it.

A mirror placed in a nest box.... drives either crazy.... the list is endless. Jealousy is 90% of all motivation. But I believe it is just a part of complete conditioning ... thn they just want a perch... as long as another is pinching it lol.

Hens again are better. Like mating to hens to the same cock bird.... Like a hen sitting on a another hens eggs everytime she omes back from a training toss .... watch her watch her every move there after, chase it around the loft. etc. etc. A shoe box with a opening in the Widowers loft, a drop down hatch that lets just one to see the hens ... A pair nesting on the floor... feed the others near their nest ...

We can race the y/b's with the old birds in the Northants Fed -- I voted against it, but the instigator and his mates got it through. Mind I believe that they can only go after a certain date! He had a y/b when he sent them as trainers that he clocked in - they have to have a rubber as trainers also - and when timed in he even wrangled the Ist placing as it was the highest velocity of all birds clocked. It is no more than card seeking to use on his advertisements.

Can get the NRCC website up of course, but can't seem to find. outside of Liberations time, any update on the Lerwicke race!

Ronnies is a nice contact to have in tow I'll wager. Mind Brussels is very pro pigeon I guess ....

NFC HOURS OF DARKNESS Please find below the Hours of Darkness that will be used to compute club results. Race Point Date Hrs of Dark Dec. Duration Hrs Mins Tarbes 30/06/2007 21:59 - 04:48 6.50 6 50 01/07/2007 21:58 - 04:49 6.51 6 51 02/07/2007 21:58 - 04:50 6.52 6 52 03/07/2007 21:57 - 04:50 6.53 6 53 04/07/2007 21:57 - 04:51 6.54 6 54 05/07/2007 21:56 - 04:52 6.56 6 56 06/07/2007 21:56 - 04:53 6.57 6 57 Saintes 21/07/2007 21:41 - 05:10 7.30 7 30 22/07/2007 21:40 - 05:12 7.32 7 32 Guernsey YB & OH 01/09/2007 20:20 - 06:15 9.55 9 55 02/09/2007 20:18 - 06:17 9.59 9 59

I remember well Also Chickens in a lot of Gardens or Bamtoms, Rabbits and even Pigs... the Good ole day eh? !

And they can't, and don't have a 'Right' to inspect your loft(s). That would take some channels and doing ... Even the Enviromental department can't insist that you allow them a view. Mind best not upset them if it can be avoided.

Never saw it Bruno, probably was moved before I had a Chance ... But it is still good to see, and better still to read lol.

Northants overcast and wet.

should give you something to read while waiting for the birds to get back. http://www.swansea.ac.uk/history/research/Pigeons%20CSH%20version%20pdf.pdf

Too much to learn.... and too close to get things real wrong .... So I just contact Johnny11 on here and have done with it!

Yes and we surely appreciate all the local ones here. For south rd clubs The Northants through Mel Errington is fantastic. N We also have marking stations at Raunds, and Moulten. and Clock station through our Northants South rd club. and the NRCC at the Raunds pigeon club. Both are very helpful and great. But then I feel in this regards we are vey lucky.

Sorry, but no. It just never happens. Sorry to be a damp squib, but it was the same in Loydd Georges day till now, and if good enough for him ... But I do appreciate personally that there are still many like you that do care, take an interest, and put forward their views. I have lists of arms long but it is Jaw Jaw and ask.... but never happened. Yes one fellow did win a case in court against the RPRA where it was ruled that they were out of order. Buthe was an extremely wealthy man... As for me, no money, so they can say 'You're riht, spot on, and we agree.... but you aren't in the 'Boys Club' so tough...

Ditto

Does any scottish / Welsh ruling bodies state you Mustn't stamp, or addie ring?

Best way to condition ANY bird or nigh any sort ... don't know about Vultures and Pergines but - is to fed and water in the basket for a few days. Tic Beans and Maple peas, a sprinkle... This time next week you will have seen tremedous improvement.... or got your money back I guess.

Sorry, but I'd bet you are wrong there. Geared to suit certain ones and area's.... others are there purely to make up the coffers' I'm afraid. Can't be the cost... possibly the Venue, but they would be off the mark pronto if this was the case. You see the mere realisation that as a fully paid club member you are entitled to the same rights and priveledges as every other... Now that means NO discrimination.... Bout time the RPRA got their claws in the discrimante twists and turns of several governing bodies and Quote 'Human Rights, discrimination acts, etc. etc. But they won't, not in the interests, and no milage in it for them or the NFC to be fair - even within reason - across the board.

That would be a first lol