I visited them in 1996, they had just won a national a few weeks before i was there. I wouldn't of given them tuppence for the winner. They did have some impressive birds and results though. The Dutch guy who took us there said they will be as well known in the UK as the Bushchart birds (that made me smile). I'm sure there will be some excellent birds but also bad one as well. It did take a while for the commercial lot to twig on, but they have a lot of catching up to do to compare with the Bushchart Breed.