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yes

I'm no expert either so I race them - its good training

3rd club 9th Fed 1887 birds 7/4/07 55 miles 192nd combine 24,199 birds 259 miles 12/05/07 13th combine 19,069 birds 317 miles 29/05/07 (1st Fed & section) (evil) and he's not a bad looker either (evil)

I've only managed this once in 5 years - but the clock was in the loft anyway I can only catch the little b*ggers in the loft - I'm not quick enough

Natural Granen is 60% wheat and barley and Beyers depurative is 65% Look at the price of conditioner - if you're lucky - £14 a bag and that consists of 30% wheat (£3.50 for 25kg) and 45% Dari (£7.50 for 20kg) I had a busy Sunday filling the corn bins making up depurative, young bird mix, and 'diet special'

Versele laga Gerry Plus  Extra Small French Cribs Maize  30 %  Cinquantino Maize  5 %  Buckwheat  1 %  Dari  15 %  Peeled oats  2 %  Linseed  1 %  Extra Barley  1 %  Paddy rice  12 %  Rice  2 %  Safflower seed  19 %  Milocorn  6 %  Extra Wheat  2 %  Mungbeans  1 %  Performance pellet IC  3% Versele laga depurative Extra Wheat  19 %  Extra Barley  35 %  Dari  15 %  Milocorn  6 %  Rice  5 %  Paddy rice  8,5 %  Safflower  5 %  Peeled oats  4 %  Buckwheat  1 %  Linseed  1,5 % Depurative - how much is that a bag? more than half of it is barley and wheat - managed to get some yesterday at £3.50 for 25kg tic beans £5.50 for 25kg for the youngsters even young bird mix is 30% wheat Junior O Extra Wheat  30 %  Extra Barley  3 %  Peas mixture  26%  Australian peas  10 %  Dari  11 %  Milocorn  7 % (red dari)  Rice  2 %  Safflower  8 %  Vetches  2 %  Black coleseed  1 % (rape)

Any birds working back after a month that are fit and healthy have been in somebody elses loft I have had youngsters return from a race after only 3 or 4 days out - that have been at deaths door

I am sure it cannot be used - as once seal has been broken it has to be used within 24 hours - or the same day only if not refrigerated

Birds were trained yesterday - 10 miles - first chuck - it was a glorious day here Basketing for first race is two weeks on Friday

and Holland and Barrett http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=43 http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=1298

Cos I believe giving them probiotics keeps their gut healthy more so than garlic - and given the choice between the two - thats what I'd pick they get double doses - day of basketting and double doses on their return lots of things make the down feathers fall - and I think putting garlic in the water makes the birds drink less - because they don't particularly like it

Probiotics - without a doubt

Yes it does

the ring number has been changed from what was originally posted- it was an 'N' - then changed to an 'S'

Are you sorted Lauracarmen?

The club the ring belongs to is: 28501– 29300 NW100 SHAW D H S Mrs L Turner, 65 Turfland Avenue, Royton, Oldham, Lancs OL2 6EN. Tel: 0161 6334335

There are a few on here who might have spare pigeons in their challenge and one loft races phillips is one

Its a National Flying Club ring so you'd have to find out from the RPRA

I personally never do well with young birds - no points in 2008 - just the 1 in 2007 but they did well as yearlings - its not the end of the world, having some left to race as yearlings is more important

Taken from an articcle: Easterly winds arrive from Europe off the continental land mass. On good days when no rain is present this airflow carries little moisture as its composition is dry. These winds to some degree can be polluted if they travel over the land having picked up minute particles from industrial regions. This is evident as when viewing the landscape from a vantage point when there is an easterly wind the view is often restricted as a white haze can be seen. As a consequence visibility is limited. These flying conditions do not create a friendly environment as pigeons racing in this dry air become dehydrated.

so the RPRA don't have any rules regarding vaccination then

You would be very disappointed with what your wife would bring back cos it wouldn't treat your pigeons for canker thats for sure

you can't race for 4 weeks after they've been vaccinated (NEHU rules - don't know rules of other organisations)

cheap - easy to use - and when you've popped a tablet down their throats - made sure its disappeared - you know they've been treated - in the water - they won't drink their quota - particularly young birds

it doesn't dissolve in water (flagyl)