a guy in my old club a few years back. using an stb....the top 5 were 2 mins between them, think he ended up 4th. Now he has been racing pigeons for a few years b4 this race without any success. When all clocks were opened and read, this guy had his rubber perfectly over the thimble, i mean the thimble was perfectly placed inside the rubber. :D He was asked how long it took him to get rubber over thimble...his reply was ages :lol: the fckr could have won that race and broke his novice status