Walter, just catching up here, the distance here is 533 miles, The winner L McKay up in Carnoustie was actually flying 527 miles, which shows you just how east the Liege racepoint actually lies. My timer came very high up from the north and when I lifted her the body feathers and feet were frozen. She was bred by Walter Mcgaffney, Lesmahagow when he was over at Brockets Brae, her No. SU 97 SL 1663 Blue. she raced right through as a yb and Walter had a chest problem at that time and packed in. Davie Forsyth bought some of his ybs that time and settled them to Burnbank, he raced the hen the following year then finished up himself after the moult.I took some photos of the old eyesign pigeons old Jock Lennox had and he asked me to go into the loft and take whatever I wanted, so I picked up a smokey blue and that was 1663.She is a W Wlison, Larkhall through the 'Swan' and 'White Tail' which were Willies ist Sect. winners at Nantes in their day. '1663' turned out to be Dam & G.Dam of some of my good hens here and her line is still prominent today. The Liege birds were lib at 0615 into a Light S/W Wind, 474 members sent 1.564 birds.