I liked franks dad wattle , a very good pigeon man , I used to go in and see him every Monday when I worked in Blantyre years ago , a cuppa and a natter out the back , aye and no big lofts and hunners o doos , a wee L shaped red and white stripped loft about 20 ft in total . He had cracking blues and blue pieds , Irish birds , the big b,ger would nt say where they came from .