i cant for the life of me get it from some fanciers ,the snfc has had great races from ypres ,the snrpc from arras , the snfc from reims 2 years ago the snrpc last year was a good race from reims ,yet some are wanting to race from western france and the west/center side of the country ,WHY OVERFLY ,IT DISNAE SUIT MY LOFT POSITION ? 1st thing to me about pigeon racing is returns get good returns and all are happy, get pour returns then only the winners are happy .good luck to all wherever u race from ,hope for the birds sake its not a big mistake going west.