kirky

i have been doing loft locations for over 30 years, all os maps show house and garden boundaries it is not so with allotments as this will only show the boundary of the full plot, you are right to mark the exact spot, but you did say that distances were taken to the middle of the garden.

wrong, you pinpoint the loft under rpra rules, some fanciers have a couple of acres out back.

he was with his son marco the other two were friends of his son.

CELTIC.

very true.

dont no what welsh rule is albear, but if you had distances for two lofts and you had the winner there would always be someone pointing the finger as to what loft it was clocked into, i have walked birds into the corn shed before today.

RPRA shortest loft also.

you dont need anything to fit a sputnik just put pad inside sputnik cover with a thin sheet of ply, and no need for bob wires.

correct chris.

i prefer a standard sputnik a lot easier for birds to land on stright out of the sky.

the unit is regesterd to the owner, contact your region sec for advice as it will need to be in your name, the nfc will have club unit.

the shortest loft the one nearest the race point

one happy strapper

ya slight red grizzle.

end of season when i have to cut down on birds, more birds than nestboxes,

only got the one pair of whites now mark but thay always breed lovley red pieds, as you no i only bred 3 off them last year and thay all scored.

ya mark just been looking at pedigrees all 100% kirkpatrick then and he was still buying them in thurso and lerwick winners also the nevers hen.

we only pay extra when we go over to french race points, its 35p down to coast 245miles.

i will be selling kits of six for £100 plus carridge or come and pick your own.

as oldyellow has said above i got all his stock birds bar one or two when he had to finish racing, 14 pairs, thay bred winners from the first nest i told oldyellow if he started up again i would let him have birds back this happend the following year and as i was moving house i gave him the pick of the stock birds, the birds i bred have won north and south, sean morris of scarborough with a breeder/buyer sent yb to maidstone 200 miles and won the following week no training went to perth north 200 miles was 2nd club 1st breeder/buyer, same hen won 2 clermonts as yearling he turned down a large offer for her last season, i still have the pair that bred her, fancier in scotland took 1st 2nd 3rd club 5th 6ht 7th fed, at billingham ybs took 1st 2nd 3rd club maidsone national, thay have done well for everyone thats had them, my own results for ybs 08 only due to house move, raced 28 each week, 14 birds won 20 cards between them, so 50% of team scored, thay win short/long easy or hard races, i sent 6 to a hard 200miler got all 6 won race buy half an hour, other lofts had 8 form 46 2 from 32 thay dont let you down on hard days thay would fly through a brick wall, i have all the origional pedigrees that oldyellow bought from louella he had son and daughters of the best,ch worley bird, gold finger, pot of gold, stranraer simon, stan the man,the nevers hen,pure gold ect, these were not cheap, every year i buy something in to fly against them but very few come close to betting them, cant thank oldyellow enough and he knows i will always return a favour.

was looking at the ones paying £100 to £150 per season mate. when others are paying 34p 35p a bird.

i think it is better to pay per bird, as when a lump sum up front i think the small team flyer is paying for mob flyers.

give the brandy up mate

i seem to be paying the most £17 with demon but have to say it has been first class never let me down.