Hi Walter I had these birds as well were they from Ely ? Anyway when my uncle jim died he left his birds to me I was 13 at the time he was a racer more a lover of doos but what doos he had ive still got the peds for them he spend a small fortune he had the Newman cattaryse ,busschearts from Bernard Burke from Bradford ,and busschearts from g&c machin of telford who still flys a good doo yet and louella Jansens the Jansens were crackers of all the greats like Arjan,irma,merx I had some fun way these birds wish i had them now everyone that saw the cattaryse admired them big blues and blue flighters all way cracking eyesign I also had cattaryse from a man in penpont down by thornhill these were beauties and won well think his name was Thompson maybe some of the guys from down there cold shed some more light on this man ? Back to Bernard Burke I think Mary Becker ended up way his birds ? And if you look at the highview doos of Hume & curly which the star view doos came out of their top stock came via Bernard some doos I had then just hadn't a clue what I had lol wish I had them now! Forgot to mention I bought som cattaryse from louella I had direct from clan field expected and millers gold i think it was called but were hopeless lol