OLDYELLOW

welcome to Pigeon Basics daz170475 i hope you enjoy the site , we look forward to your posts nice loft

I mix my own whilst i can buy it cheaper

£3.50 FOR 30 KG ROUGHLY

everything in moderation , any vitamins given to pigeons that they cant absorb through the normal process comes out the other end so excessive use will cost the fancier and will empty there pockets quicker

nar i bought from farm before the great price hike shame most of maple crops failed over my way i should of bought a pea mountain , next season i will

i have bought in a load in anticipation of the great European price hike they'll buy it sell it back to us mugs at a inflated price

i'd strongly disagree with not giving birds vitamins most feeds are lacking vitamins and can differ from crop to crop hence the need to supliment vitamins , now you say 'Blackberrys and Elderberrys in our case ' surely these contain vitamins ? birds forage in the wild and readly eat berry such as hawthorn and elderberys but when there in season and keep themselves right , rember our birds arent wild but still have the same dietry needs and we need to suply them , if not more so when we force there migratory instincts to race and the strain this has on them.

whats your loft look like in the snow? well looks cold but it aint that bad been colder

good god been watching news barely an inch of snow and motorways closed ectra , can rember 6ft snow drifts in 70's we still got about its amazing how backwards this countrys getting when we get a wee dusting of snow ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

very nice birds

very nice birds

must admit i should of washed the other trap looks filthy ;D ;D ;D ;D

yup front looks wet i washed the traps with the hose just before picture ;D ;D ;D ;D

dpc above the the breeze block wall yes the lack of guttering is a problem but not causing damp to loft its more like a bog geting in and out which will be rectified, my deep litter hides nothing nice and dry , it used to be bianco'ed every other day

i will be puting a path in to loft once i have built the platform as for air there is 3 parralle walls so has air flow underneath wheres dampness going to enter beyond me ;D ;D ;D ;D

already mentioned Ian

note the blue front this was a bird i bought from vallance , my nest fronts are all green lovely looking hen tho

http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l323/OLDYELLOW1/ quite a few pictures on there deep litter tho but 100% dry

id stick with plan a paint it

i did mine in old loft but it has to be dry before putting birds back in as can burn not that creosote is like the old stuff its a substitute

well if not damp then your birds will be fine if free from vermin and damp

i would seal the bottom of the front in as when rain hits the front the water will cascade down the walls even with a slope water will find its own level

well to me the floor looks damp and if you look at the front there is a gap where the sheets meet the floor rain water will run back in simple realy and also a gap under side entrance damp creates problems so dry loft ? nope ass i have pointed the problems out , has the floor got a damp course or felt sheeting below the ply flooring ?

still i would apply to the pb fund its for situations like this

get yourself a bird table encourage the wild birds then get a nice camera