i believe theres a loft in Ripon who has Gurnays , i suppose the modern equiverlent would be the Van der Mewers , these having the famous line of Black Jack ( same as my Tournier hen ) the Tourniers original base was Gurnay hence the feathered leg , a while back a guy in wales ' Chip Evans ' had some great gurnay cross Hanseens birds for sale think Cowboy bought some a friend of mine buys Gurnays so ill ask him for the guys phone number when i see him next Zimmy