jimmy white

my thoughts,,, but good avian vet would verify

agree

a most interesting thread,, many different veiws,,

better in boxes wed till frid,,only my opinion but healthier in aviary half the week the racks will certainly help,, but as the warmer weather gets here ;D [about jan ;D] they still tend to take an interest in each other,, then less amorous to the cock friday

hi robert sorry to here of your plight,, but with due respect , in one post you say they were perfect when you let them out,, then in another you said they had lost weight?? if they were perfect when you let them out , and become ill this quick, i would think some sort of poison,, but if theive lost weight previous to this would suspect something else, my advise would be , to do as tony c says ,,asap,, hope things sort themselves out as im sure this is very worrying for you, maybe, just poss, that some underlining trouble was there b4 you let them out, but too difficult to tell over rthe internet

working ok now ;D [maybe my eyes ;D ;D ;D]

anyone having trouble posting,, :-/ :-/ :-/, in the last couple of posts, i have put on,, the print keeps" jumping back up :-/" and i cant see the whole of my post,,untill posted ,, maybe my computer??,, , but just wondered if anyone else has had this bother,,, this post seems to be going on ok? the post i put on rolands electrolyte thread , didnt , and i couldnt see the last few lines , so really couldnt get my post, the way i wanted it??/ im actualy trying this, to see if it works ,,,,it seems to be ok now :-/ :-/ :-/ strange

in this sense i would agree, roland, pigeons are far different from humans and nature allways has its way,,in the normal sense,,,, but i feel we actualy go against nature, by sending pigeons many miles and asking them to do many hours on the wing, therefore we have the need to help the bird recover asap, as it is us that makes the bird do this, unnaturaly ,[fly these miles] therefore i feel its up to us to aid recovery in any way we can, allthough im a firm beleiver in nature , and beleive nature to be a marvelous thing , there are many veiws on electrolytes , but i have to say, having given electolytes in one loft and not another, found the birds droppings returned quicker back to normal , with the birds in the loft that had been given electrolytes, , but agree in rest ,food , water and patience, and if the bird was fit b4 the race would recover on its own, quite quickly, but i do feel any help we can give them to recover, is up to us,,,as its us that puts them through it,, really un-naturaly

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hi scroogie,, welcome to pigeon basics ,, this does look like a collared dove to me, but does look in good health, [looks about 18 days old? these birds do have a slightly different diet than racing or feral pigeons [rock dove type],, but i should still imagine a high protein feeding , such as small pea nuts, peas etc , maybe a cod liver oil capsule each second day,, and off course water, the growth rate of these birds are so, that in a few days to a week, the bird would be able to pick up grains for itself,rice ,lentils even peas and kibbled peanuts at the mo, you would prob need a hand to pop some peanuts , peas [rice would take to long to fill it] down its beak , with someone opening its beak for you, [ittl drink itself if its head is just dipped in water , after a feed] if you have patience to do this, the bird will turn out very tame, and even make a good pet good luck with it

good luck to all,

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see thread above adamant ,, some of the mags are more adverts than anything else,, tony c reccomended julios galles [spelt wrong ] but they are a great series of books for bigginner and old hand alike also maybe poss to get some dvd,s from forum members, good luck

in my opinion i beleive this to be true in fact it has been proved ps,, the rest are had beans ;D ;D ;D

seems a great start,, good luck

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;D ;D ;D

approx 15 breeds :-/ up to now if i had one of each,,,,,,which one would win 150 miles ;D

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just pm,d you joe ,, good luck

can anyone help red cheq hen,, surely some can help,, please pm her if able

5ml one teaspoon ,,,,but handy to know for novices,, on this thread ,, for the record

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if any help please pm beanz,, thanks

just out of curiosity , how long have you had pigeons? how many do you have,, what size is your loft,,