jimmy white

speight im on a very lot of medication ie anti inflamatory, [indomethacin] pain killers [dihydrocodeine] and muscle relaxants [diazepam] also tablets for heart problems, and depression [beleive it or not :) ]but seriously, the desease with me is fairly advanced, and my goodness, do know that,at times, my advice to you ,as a younger chap , is to keep as mobile as possible [sometime easier said than, done,] do exactly what your doctor says,and physiotherapist] join the ankylosing spondulitis association,[brunos advice to me] well worth it, try glucomine sulphate [roses advice]again no harm in trying as my doctor said, and speckleds advice, dont let it beat you, batter on, sound advice ill p.m you when i get some time, and good info, meanwhile had to laugh at my physiotherapist :) :)TAKE A HOBBY THAT INVOLVES LOOKING UP, TO KEEP YOUR NECK MOBILE I,E DARTS ETC ,I SAID I KEEP PIGEONS , SHE LAUGHED AND ACTUALLY PUT THAT ON HER LIST, SHE HAD NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE BEFORE, MAYBE SHELL KEEP THEM NOW, SHE WAS CERTAINLY INTERESTED ;D ;D ;D ;D

what about the forum ,having a forum young fancier of the year,where at the end of the season the young fancier would submit his results, i,e age , birdage ,distance etc, and maybe a trophy to the winner ,voted by poll ;D ;D ;D not interpoll ;D ;D ;D

i would worry if my droppings were green??? :) i wouldnt waste any time and simply get their droppings tested

albeit an interesting subject, i would have to agree with shadow DANGER

the old story applies, youll never get to the bottom of them i would have thought that a good subject, for a university ,to look in to

could be something in what you say carter, who knows?

kids can be encouraged, even if they are not able to keep them now, the seed can be sown . in my experience, once they are taught to handle a pigeon, they seem to want them after that

:) best tip i can give you is,, remember the 3 c,s contentment. condition. and control, if you can get these things linked together, you wont go far wrong, stick in young westy, youll go far :)

e,mailed defra, just out of curiosity, see if mr ewan can change the goal posts. dont know if theyll answer me but well see.

:) when i was a lad, we had a cat called" cooking fat" well i THINK thats what its name was ???, as i used to here my dad saying, get that" cooking fat" out of here. :)

my old club used to race about 5 to 600 birds per week, it used to be that the first 8 got a prize, and points, 8 for first ,then down to 1 for eight then there was a points trophy

i woud say take hyacinths tip, you may get a lot of valuable information

bruno i wont mention" milton" :) i can see your point, as the last few days have been particularly freezing, but thankfully its not allways like that, im sure the birds know its going to freeze, and take more water ,in a oner ,than normal, so its just as easy changing it as normal, each day, ive never seen them any the worse off for it :)

i think we all go over the score in adding,too much to the water i think some birds must wonder what "real" water is nowadays :)

experienced both, but would prefer, back garden, mind you allways had good company and laughs where i had them, in the "yard," but travelling back and forth in winter was no fun

:) :)according to the poll, its obvious that if youve kept pigons as a boy or girl , theres more chance of you keeping them later in life. but on reflection, , i think we must attract all ages, even the" golden oldies" my motto has allways been, if each fancier, spent time in getting one of their freinds interested ,membership would double [easier said than done, but would say ive managed it on a few occasions] only thing is , theve never forgiven me for it, :) :)

i have the same ,ankylosing spondulitisits[ no joke,],tried cider vinegar, never helped, but now trying, glucosamine sulphate, thats how i cant sleep now, very painfull,i have every sympathy for you mate. as far as the birds go, cider vinegar is good . but i think we can all get carried away ,with too, many additives in the water.p.s hope your keeping better than me, at least we an help one another, as its quite a relatively rare desease, some forum members have been a great help to me, cheers mate, if i can be of any help, just p.m. me

brilliant answer chatrace, ill just buzz of now ??? i was going to say gales honey, but not after the damage to your garage ;D ;D ;D hope all goes well with the repair job, it looks a brilliant place,,,,,good luck :)

and have done remarkably well in that short time westy

i i wonder if" rspb hip huc ewan" has read section 27 of the wild life and countryside act,,,WHAT CONSTITUTES A BRITTISH BIRD,,,,,, sec ,27 wildlife and countryside act 1981,, [ANY BIRD OF A KIND WHICH IS ORDINARY RESIDENT IN OR IS A VISITOR TO GREAT BRITTAIN] ,,,,,,,SO MR EWAN [ HIS SUNDAY NAME] MUST BE BLATENTLY WRONG IN SAYING, ON THAT EAGLE OWL PROGRAMME "THAT THEY ARE FOREIGN AND DONT BELONG HERE" THAT 1981 ACT CLEARLY CONTRADICTS HIM THE 23 YOUNG BIRDS WERE BORN HERE,IN THE WILD, AND RUNG ,TO PROOVE IT. P.S I JUST LOVE HIP HUC EWAN,,,,, BOTH HIS FACES. ;)

much the same as you s,w, funny how you remember your first birds, great to see you racing descendants of that bird to this day, great stuff

cow and gate sma white

at what age did you first start keeping pigeons :)

good lad bruno, lets know how you get on , the rspb are very hard to understand??? fifestays post prooves that.

yes if any club was dissolved ,all assets would be equally shared by the members, but on the other side of the coin,... all dept, would have to be equally paid back by all the members.also.