That is exactly my point Davy, our birds have been racing 2 different races for years and for years the west have had no chance of winning the race when the strings were cut. When i win at anything i like to think my opponent has had an equal opportunity to what i had when the bell rings so to speak, the way the YB national is run just now does not give every bird in the basket that chance. I know the wind determines where the winners will be, we can't do anything about that, however we can try to rectify the problems that are within our scope. jmo.