Very very true Ricky ,no such thing as good race from France now ,messac 2years ago think only 40ish birds into Scotland in 3 days ,Tours last year only 8 birds on result after 3 days ,Top man in our fed had his best 8 at alencon got one that sums up pigeon racing nowadays if the inlands are scrubbed there won't be any doos left in 3 years with those losses have to face the stark facts the glory days are long gone ,I have lost more young birds training the last week than I used to breed in 3 years and it will only get Worse ,There are national winners etc being lost at these races if you had a good one years ago you had it for life jmho