dal2 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Old birdsApril 13th Shap 45 miles 20th charnock 27th Charnock May 4th Lymm 120 miles 11th Stafford YB 18th Coventry Shap 50miles sun 25th Buckingham 230m Shap sunJune 1st Buckingham SNFC charnock sun 8th Bovingdon charnock sun 15th Maidstone snfc Lymm sat 29th Gold Cup Stafford satJuly 6th ypres snfc Stafford sat 13th longest snfc Buckingham sat 20th Roye snfc 27th Young bird nat What if? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Your point being? Edited August 19, 2018 by Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Your point being?Point is that the season is shortened into the best weather and the least predation from VOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Point is that the season is shortened into the best weather and the least predation from VOPSteven april has been for the last few years the worst weather we have seen by starting later it should be better weather and by pushing the race prog back by a number of weeks this should help with y/bs being a lot later starting jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Also the later days into September have been far better for the young birds. So August - september most season has plenty of time for youngster to gain expeirenceRace birds- as nature intends - mated in March has so very many add ons and better for old birds and young birds races alike. 2nd week even 3rd May means plenty of time to get the ob's ready fror racing and better bred youngster settled. No trailers idle saving fuel in June either. Still have sharter distances to prepare for the longest races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Also the later days into September have been far better for the young birds. So August - september most season has plenty of time for youngster to gain expeirenceRace birds- as nature intends - mated in March has so very many add ons and better for old birds and young birds races alike. 2nd week even 3rd May means plenty of time to get the ob's ready fror racing and better bred youngster settled. No trailers idle saving fuel in June either. Still have sharter distances to prepare for the longest races.Keep doing the same thing then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Old birdsApril 13th Shap 45 miles 20th charnock 27th Charnock May 4th Lymm 120 miles 11th Stafford YB 18th Coventry Shap 50miles sun 25th Buckingham 230m Shap sunJune 1st Buckingham SNFC charnock sun 8th Bovingdon charnock sun 15th Maidstone snfc Lymm sat 29th Gold Cup Stafford satJuly 6th ypres snfc Stafford sat 13th longest snfc Buckingham sat 20th Roye snfc 27th Young bird nat What if? This is a similar plan to what we have considered for the North Road, the arguments against being that the season is too short as it is, so why shorten it further. If it was started later, with a longer break between OB's and YB's, then the season would run as long as it does just now, but the YB's would be racing when the BOP YB's had fledged and were on their own. Would it make it any easier for our YB's, who knows at this stage since it has not yet been tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 This is a similar plan to what we have considered for the North Road, the arguments against being that the season is too short as it is, so why shorten it further. If it was started later, with a longer break between OB's and YB's, then the season would run as long as it does just now, but the YB's would be racing when the BOP YB's had fledged and were on their own. Would it make it any easier for our YB's, who knows at this stage since it has not yet been tried. Just am idea Andy....loads of adjustments could be made....the old ways aren't working that's plain to see so doing nowt isn't an option. The draw back for me would be the money involved for the fancier racing twice in a weekend in an already desperately expensive hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Our idea had been OB's and YB's together, so cost was not an issue. This would have produced a saving. We don't step out as fast as on the south, so it was possible. As you say, a starting point which could be tweaked. The hardest part is stopping a rearguard from "digging in". The weather can be fair during September and October, so a longer break could be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Our club allowed the young birds to race with the old birds for the last 3 … then two races with the old bird in the season. Then was made into two different races... Was destroyed as most realised the Old birds were left behind. Just like when training with the hens. The excuse then was the widow hens weren't trained enough lol. So why did the cock birds finish behind also? It was agreed that it would no longer be practised etc. Now on the one hand many are saying they train youngsters to experience for them. The Moult etc. But later bred youngsters flew the programme up to 250 miles or more when on third flight … which I feel personally that extra power to the bird, like a woman having a baby, is for the other reason, the moult. So SEVEN races would more than satisfy and do the chore intended. A later start would mean that a good rotation of pigeons for certain races would be easier, due to the nest circle. Will have to say Dal12 Quote: '.... Andy....loads of adjustments could be made....the old ways aren't working that's plain to see so doing nowt isn't an option'. If it means a loss of a couple of races. maybe someone could explain how? the betterment of our pigeons surely now! must be paramount! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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