Kojak Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Read an article on elimar about a company,started by a group of vets,who state that they have a product that has greatly decreased the number of bird losses on the continent, by using their product on the transporters water system. It claims the product,that can be taken by both animal and humans prevents the spread of disease in the transporter therefore healthier birds return home,the company is schroeder & tollisan they have their own website and the product is DF30000 Dostofarm,might be worth having a look.
REDCHEQHEN Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 There are plenty of products that can do this - but it's the fanciers themselves that will not allow it, if it has to be voted on (spoken from experience, some fanciers see it as medication and will not allow an organisation to medicate their birds - they are their own worst enemy)
greenlands Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 There are plenty of products that can do this - but it's the fanciers themselves that will not allow it, if it has to be voted on (spoken from experience, some fanciers see it as medication and will not allow an organisation to medicate their birds - they are their own worst enemy) Couldn't have put it better myself Sue.No need to pay silly money to kill the nasties.
Delboy Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Anything to help the pigeons should be used.
tyson Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 putting stuff in the water will not prevent ybs as this is a virus which is transmitted in the air also when pigeons are carrying the virus are sick in the basketthen other pigeons eat that food thats when the spread starts its up to the fanciers who have ybs in there lofts to have a bit of commensence for the sake of other fanciers to stop racing but fanciers still keep sending knowing they have it result is you then have a outbreak of ybs one thing I have proposed in the past to help to try to stop the spread is each fanciers pigeons if possible go into there own baskets on the transporters this would maybe help as if pigeons bring up food then it is only that fanciers pigeons that are getting infected but at the end of the day its up to fanciers to have a wee bit common sense but some aare lacking in this and race at all cost
JohnQuinn Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Milton sterilising tablets are cheap, kill all bacteria and viruses in the water and is safe for the birds to drink. Don't see a future for a business trying to compete with a multi national company who produce a similar product at a much lower price. Jmo
tyson Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 miltons cannot be put in galvansed drinkers or tanks a it causes a reaction with the metal
greenlands Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 miltons cannot be put in galvansed drinkers or tanks a it causes a reaction with the metalHow about Virkon S ?
JohnQuinn Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 miltons cannot be put in galvansed drinkers or tanks a it causes a reaction with the metal Didnae know that happened. Tanks on our motors are plastic and drinking troughs are aluminium, would it react in an ally trough or just galvanised ?
tyson Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 as far as I know it reactes with galvanised dont know about aluminium
sammy Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 think every club should have a rule that young birds should not be fed going to the race ,ok might upset some people but it will certainly stop the spread of any nasties when birds are sick in basket :001:
Delboy Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 putting stuff in the water will not prevent ybs as this is a virus which is transmitted in the air also when pigeons are carrying the virus are sick in the basketthen other pigeons eat that food thats when the spread starts its up to the fanciers who have ybs in there lofts to have a bit of commensence for the sake of other fanciers to stop racing but fanciers still keep sending knowing they have it result is you then have a outbreak of ybs one thing I have proposed in the past to help to try to stop the spread is each fanciers pigeons if possible go into there own baskets on the transporters this would maybe help as if pigeons bring up food then it is only that fanciers pigeons that are getting infected but at the end of the day its up to fanciers to have a wee bit common sense but some aare lacking in this and race at all cost COMMON SENSE....This is exactly how it should be done, we did this in the Kirkintilloch club many years ago and it paid dividends. Before any eejit says there is an advantage having all yer doos in the one basket then think about this, if there was an advantage( and there isn't imo ) then everybody in the club has the same advantage as everyones doos are in their own basket.
kingbilly 1 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 How about Virkon S ?Virkon s is a disinfection that's for cleaning with not to be pout into the drinking water
We man Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 putting stuff in the water will not prevent ybs as this is a virus which is transmitted in the air also when pigeons are carrying the virus are sick in the basketthen other pigeons eat that food thats when the spread starts its up to the fanciers who have ybs in there lofts to have a bit of commensence for the sake of other fanciers to stop racing but fanciers still keep sending knowing they have it result is you then have a outbreak of ybs one thing I have proposed in the past to help to try to stop the spread is each fanciers pigeons if possible go into there own baskets on the transporters this would maybe help as if pigeons bring up food then it is only that fanciers pigeons that are getting infected but at the end of the day its up to fanciers to have a wee bit common sense but some aare lacking in this and race at all cost
kingziemckay Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 why do clubs not do this? own birds in crates?no mixing,it really is common sense,it should always be the well fairof the birds that comes first!!!!!!
tyson Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 exactly derek when the birds are liberated they are all up in the sky mostly together some people have never seen a liberation imo this should be done for atleast the first four or five youngbird races
kingziemckay Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 How about Virkon S ? virkon s corrodes galvanized,metal,
JohnQuinn Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 The biggest problem with all yer birds in the same basket is if there is an escape from the transporter. It does happen and if all yer birds are in the same basket they escape from then yer oot the race.
Kojak Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Posted September 11, 2016 I gave you the web address,read the article then pass judgement.
We man Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 The biggest problem with all yer birds in the same basket is if there is an escape from the transporter. It does happen and if all yer birds are in the same basket they escape from then yer oot the race.I for one would be more than happy with that John as I know they had not been mixed with the sickos and would be healthy for the next race omo.
kingziemckay Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 I for one would be more than happy with that John as I know they had not been mixed with the sickos and would be healthy for the next race omo. for the health and well fair of my pigeons,if all allowed in own crateon transporter,and had escapee i wouldnt care if i was out the race!!!!!! well fair of birds come first in my eyes always!!
greenlands Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 Virkon s is a disinfection that's for cleaning with not to be pout into the drinking waterTell that to the lads round here when they get YBS ...3/4 teaspoon to a gallon.
JohnQuinn Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 I for one would be more than happy with that John as I know they had not been mixed with the sickos and would be healthy for the next race omo. In normal club racing it widnae bother me either. But If it was an open race I wid be greetin ma eyes oot lol
tyson Posted September 11, 2016 Report Posted September 11, 2016 by the time it came to open races the birds could be mixed as by that time all the sick birds will probably be dead or lost hopefully
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