kingziemckay Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 you would expect to get yb losses,but not old birds,some lofts have lost there best birds,that have scored before,,never to be seen again,or reported,even just training,somthing is wrong big time, atb
dal2 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 you would expect to get yb losses,but not old birds,some lofts have lost there best birds,that have scored before,,never to be seen again,or reported,even just training,somthing is wrong big time, atb That's not a new thing
HOMER49 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 When I was stray officer I used to use my own baskets to ferry the strays. This was deliberate as I wanted my Ybs exposed to as many bacteria/viruses as possible. Madness ?? Maybe but I think it even more madness when a stray lands on a loft and the fancier won't even let the poor cant in his loft in case it's got a disease. There IMO lies the problem with Non reporting of strays, they canny report what they won't let in and I think this applies to a large percentage of fanciers. If it's no for disease reasons then it's because they canny be bothered way the hassle. Disnae help when owners are 'suggesting' the finder dispose of it which is as prevalent as ppl no given house room tae them.My conclusion to this is its Self inflicted on the back of scare stories about YBS PMV PARATYPHOID ( though that should be PARANOIA) or any other fad illness fanciers are claiming they know of. Ps. I haven't had to put down a single Yb this season and I believe it's because my Doos are more resistant to disease because of the exposure to it. Again jmo Hi JohnMadness yes unless you are vaccinated for Circo Virus (YBS) Paramyxo Virus and Salmonella Virus (Paratyphoid)and treated for Chlamydia This only leaves Herpies Virus and Pigeon Pox VirusI have also excluded Paramyxo 2 which there is no vaccine or cureCheers and Good luck with your Young BirdsHomer 49
kingbilly 1 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 Main reason for losses are as follows.1. Bad Fanciers2. Bad Pigeons bred off of Bad Pigeons. 3. Bad Fanciers4. Unfit Pigeons5. Bad Fanciers6. Hawks. 7. Bad Fanciers. JmoJohn wot category applies to you out of 1 to 7
kingbilly 1 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 Main reason for losses are as follows.1. Bad Fanciers. 1 above average 2. Bad Pigeons bred off of Bad Pigeons. 2 only new stuff trying out3. Bad Fanciers. 3 above average 4. Unfit Pigeons. 4 never5. Bad Fanciers. 5 above average B6. Hawks. 6 yes 7. Bad Fanciers. Jmo. 7 above average This is my self assessment lol
Harry0 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Posted July 25, 2016 Not every pigeon that gets lost is sick .the main culprit is the hawks young birds once they have been hit fly and fly again untill there done in and have no reserves to pick there self's up to make it home the next day simple This is the biggest problem in UK. All this vaccinating for PMV is a money making racket. Sickness bad pigeons and poor fanciers also play a part .Peregrines don't care how good or bad birds are .
Harry0 Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 Derek am no talking about the 5% of fanciers, it's the 95% I refer tae. This is no a 2016 problem it's been like this for feckin yearsAt one time even the sh** fanciers got there birds all home treated or not treated . . The only consistent factor in looses is the explosion of peregrine falcons . It's gone from the 95% of your so called poor fanciers getting most home to the elite % getting slaughtered to . The best fanciers and birds still go when peregrines into them . Have to agree with other chaps your talking sh**
JohnQuinn Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 John wot category applies to you out of 1 to 7 Always thought self assessment gives a false reading Tam so al leave others tae decide Ma categories.
jimbo54 Posted July 26, 2016 Report Posted July 26, 2016 See in the news Amazon uk are doing trials to deliver parcels direct to your door by using drones which will fly at approx. 300 to 400 feet, wonder how our birds will cope if they meet up with one on the way home from a toss, as if percy wasn't bad enough.
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