geordie1234 Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 It's always good to read other fanciers loft reports, see what methods they use etc If you could pick any fancier to have a loft report done on who would you pick? I'd like to see an up to date write up on the woodroffe bros, and the kinniers
andy Burgess Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 It's always good to read other fanciers loft reports, see what methods they use etc If you could pick any fancier to have a loft report done on who would you pick? I'd like to see an up to date write up on the woodroffe bros, and the kinniers why not approach them Geo, your good with photo,s too . maybe you could put the reports on Basics ??
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 I'm messing about with a wee write up just now on one of the top pigeons and fanciers in the SNFC at the moment. Should be out and about fairly soon I wouldn't mind seeing a write up on the Gadsons-a couple of the London cracks
William Reid Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 It's always good to read other fanciers loft reports, see what methods they use etc If you could pick any fancier to have a loft report done on who would you pick? I'd like to see an up to date write up on the woodroffe bros, and the kinniersGood post Geordie. But as a local fancier to yourself I would be very interested to know what changes/ advice you made to take your racing up another gear.
geordie1234 Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Posted November 3, 2015 I'm messing about with a wee write up just now on one of the top pigeons and fanciers in the SNFC at the moment. Should be out and about fairly soon I wouldn't mind seeing a write up on the Gadsons-a couple of the London cracks The gadsons 100% Good post Geordie. But as a local fancier to yourself I would be very interested to know what changes/ advice you made to take your racing up another gear. Worked harder and stuck to the plan
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 The gadsons 100% Worked harder and stuck to the plan in other words, you're telling us f#%* all
Wiley Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 The gadsons 100% Worked harder and stuck to the plan http://youtu.be/ojF-7Fckk5A
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 http://youtu.be/ojF-7Fckk5A :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Delboy Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 Heres a wee bit of info from Mark Evans of M & D.Evans Another question from Jim Emerton CAN YOU STATE PLEASE THE KEY ASPECTS OF YOUR BRILLIANT RACING SYSTEMS?? The key aspects of any successful racing loft are firstly you must own top class breeders. In my own loft I wanted to breed the best racing pigeons in the world, and everything about my program has been geared toward breeding better pigeons. This meant that in the early years I spent a great deal of money and effort acquiring some of the finest genes available in the sport for the purpose of establishing a world class gene pool from which I could work. Once this was accomplished, my efforts shifted to evolving that gene pool. As I move forward in this regard, the famous birds that are the foundations of my bloodlines become more distant in the pedigrees. However, the value of the birds I produce should increase with each succeeding generation if I am to be considered successful in my breeding program. Too many fanciers will run toward easier competition rather than face the fact that their pigeons are not good enough or the fact they simply aren’t willing to put in the level of commitment and work to acquire the best results with the pigeons they own (possibly both). Many fanciers will propose boundary changers again just to try and eliminate better competition. These fanciers are only kidding themselves that they have good management and good pigeons. Take the M.N.F.C. This was a fantastic club back in the nineties early two thousands. The club then only had four sections but because of poor losers wanting easier completion, we’ve seen the sections split on several occasions and in my opinion this has ruined a fantastic club by allowing this to happen. Even my own North East section has been split three times resulting in a poor amount of birds going into each section. Winning a 1st Section out of only a couple of hundred birds (knowing you are minutes behind other fanciers only yards away in a different section) is in my eyes NOT much of a worth- while or satisfactory achievement. To have a brilliant racing system you must be dedicated to wanting to be the best and want to compete against only the very best. In our partnership loft in the UK and in America we’ve spent thousands of pounds moving to a different area just to race against stronger competition. To be crowned the best then surely you must race amongst the best. This in my eyes is a far more outstanding achievement and well worth the commitment. Other key aspects are feeding only the very best corn this means second best isn’t good enough. Any corns purchased by us at Myrtle Lofts for breeding or racing must be well polished and very clean and dust free. The loft must be dry with good ventilation which can be controlled to suit the different weather conditions we have here in the U.K. You must never over crowd your loft because this will result in stress. Stress then being inevitably followed by health problems. Having health problems in your pigeons results in having to use medication and medication causes low immunity within the birds as a whole. This then creates a roller coaster effect which takes some controlling. I have witnessed this effect in lofts where fanciers are fighting a losing battle due to the over use of medication and it long term usage causing suppressed immunity. It’s so easy to avoid by not overcrowding in the first place. Quality pigeons will reign supreme over quantity. Another key aspect is Patience. This must be applied in a hundred and one different ways. First never rush in to purchasing new stock without a lot of homework studying the performances and honesty of the fancier concerned. Never believe everything fanciers tell you until you see the facts in black and white. If they say their bloodlines have won this and that ask to see the result sheets. If they say they’ve bred winners for other fanciers ask to see the facts. You are in your rights to see any information regarding anything they are claiming. Have patience in preparing your race birds. Don’t do anything silly regarding training in poor conditions just so you can meet the deadline for the first race of the season. You want your race team to enjoy what they are doing and to be attentive in their work. Try to avoid training in cold north east winds at the beginning of the season and if you must train in these conditions, drop the pigeons at a shorter distance of about 10 miles so not to sicken the team before you’ve really got started. It takes a few weeks to get your racers in top form and only one silly mistake to knock them off form over night. Watch your birds carefully, study ever individual pigeon in your loft to find out their likes and dislikes which will allow you to get the best from everyone of them in turn. I must say pigeon racing isn’t rocket science it is just a matter of using common sense. If a pigeon shows to you what turns them on, what they like in life to make him/her happy use that to your advantage to get the best from him/her on race days.
Rainman Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 Heres a wee bit of info from Mark Evans of M & D.Evans Another question from Jim Emerton CAN YOU STATE PLEASE THE KEY ASPECTS OF YOUR BRILLIANT RACING SYSTEMS?? The key aspects of any successful racing loft are firstly you must own top class breeders. In my own loft I wanted to breed the best racing pigeons in the world, and everything about my program has been geared toward breeding better pigeons. This meant that in the early years I spent a great deal of money and effort acquiring some of the finest genes available in the sport for the purpose of establishing a world class gene pool from which I could work. Once this was accomplished, my efforts shifted to evolving that gene pool. As I move forward in this regard, the famous birds that are the foundations of my bloodlines become more distant in the pedigrees. However, the value of the birds I produce should increase with each succeeding generation if I am to be considered successful in my breeding program. Too many fanciers will run toward easier competition rather than face the fact that their pigeons are not good enough or the fact they simply aren’t willing to put in the level of commitment and work to acquire the best results with the pigeons they own (possibly both). Many fanciers will propose boundary changers again just to try and eliminate better competition. These fanciers are only kidding themselves that they have good management and good pigeons. Take the M.N.F.C. This was a fantastic club back in the nineties early two thousands. The club then only had four sections but because of poor losers wanting easier completion, we’ve seen the sections split on several occasions and in my opinion this has ruined a fantastic club by allowing this to happen. Even my own North East section has been split three times resulting in a poor amount of birds going into each section. Winning a 1st Section out of only a couple of hundred birds (knowing you are minutes behind other fanciers only yards away in a different section) is in my eyes NOT much of a worth- while or satisfactory achievement. To have a brilliant racing system you must be dedicated to wanting to be the best and want to compete against only the very best. In our partnership loft in the UK and in America we’ve spent thousands of pounds moving to a different area just to race against stronger competition. To be crowned the best then surely you must race amongst the best. This in my eyes is a far more outstanding achievement and well worth the commitment. Other key aspects are feeding only the very best corn this means second best isn’t good enough. Any corns purchased by us at Myrtle Lofts for breeding or racing must be well polished and very clean and dust free. The loft must be dry with good ventilation which can be controlled to suit the different weather conditions we have here in the U.K. You must never over crowd your loft because this will result in stress. Stress then being inevitably followed by health problems. Having health problems in your pigeons results in having to use medication and medication causes low immunity within the birds as a whole. This then creates a roller coaster effect which takes some controlling. I have witnessed this effect in lofts where fanciers are fighting a losing battle due to the over use of medication and it long term usage causing suppressed immunity. It’s so easy to avoid by not overcrowding in the first place. Quality pigeons will reign supreme over quantity. Another key aspect is Patience. This must be applied in a hundred and one different ways. First never rush in to purchasing new stock without a lot of homework studying the performances and honesty of the fancier concerned. Never believe everything fanciers tell you until you see the facts in black and white. If they say their bloodlines have won this and that ask to see the result sheets. If they say they’ve bred winners for other fanciers ask to see the facts. You are in your rights to see any information regarding anything they are claiming. Have patience in preparing your race birds. Don’t do anything silly regarding training in poor conditions just so you can meet the deadline for the first race of the season. You want your race team to enjoy what they are doing and to be attentive in their work. Try to avoid training in cold north east winds at the beginning of the season and if you must train in these conditions, drop the pigeons at a shorter distance of about 10 miles so not to sicken the team before you’ve really got started. It takes a few weeks to get your racers in top form and only one silly mistake to knock them off form over night. Watch your birds carefully, study ever individual pigeon in your loft to find out their likes and dislikes which will allow you to get the best from everyone of them in turn. I must say pigeon racing isn’t rocket science it is just a matter of using common sense. If a pigeon shows to you what turns them on, what they like in life to make him/her happy use that to your advantage to get the best from him/her on race days.Great read what would the fancy consider to be the right amount of birds so to be not over crowded
Guest johnhunter Posted November 3, 2015 Report Posted November 3, 2015 Heres a wee bit of info from Mark Evans of M & D.Evans Another question from Jim Emerton CAN YOU STATE PLEASE THE KEY ASPECTS OF YOUR BRILLIANT RACING SYSTEMS?? The key aspects of any successful racing loft are firstly you must own top class breeders. In my own loft I wanted to breed the best racing pigeons in the world, and everything about my program has been geared toward breeding better pigeons. This meant that in the early years I spent a great deal of money and effort acquiring some of the finest genes available in the sport for the purpose of establishing a world class gene pool from which I could work. Once this was accomplished, my efforts shifted to evolving that gene pool. As I move forward in this regard, the famous birds that are the foundations of my bloodlines become more distant in the pedigrees. However, the value of the birds I produce should increase with each succeeding generation if I am to be considered successful in my breeding program. Too many fanciers will run toward easier competition rather than face the fact that their pigeons are not good enough or the fact they simply aren’t willing to put in the level of commitment and work to acquire the best results with the pigeons they own (possibly both). Many fanciers will propose boundary changers again just to try and eliminate better competition. These fanciers are only kidding themselves that they have good management and good pigeons. Take the M.N.F.C. This was a fantastic club back in the nineties early two thousands. The club then only had four sections but because of poor losers wanting easier completion, we’ve seen the sections split on several occasions and in my opinion this has ruined a fantastic club by allowing this to happen. Even my own North East section has been split three times resulting in a poor amount of birds going into each section. Winning a 1st Section out of only a couple of hundred birds (knowing you are minutes behind other fanciers only yards away in a different section) is in my eyes NOT much of a worth- while or satisfactory achievement. To have a brilliant racing system you must be dedicated to wanting to be the best and want to compete against only the very best. In our partnership loft in the UK and in America we’ve spent thousands of pounds moving to a different area just to race against stronger competition. To be crowned the best then surely you must race amongst the best. This in my eyes is a far more outstanding achievement and well worth the commitment. Other key aspects are feeding only the very best corn this means second best isn’t good enough. Any corns purchased by us at Myrtle Lofts for breeding or racing must be well polished and very clean and dust free. The loft must be dry with good ventilation which can be controlled to suit the different weather conditions we have here in the U.K. You must never over crowd your loft because this will result in stress. Stress then being inevitably followed by health problems. Having health problems in your pigeons results in having to use medication and medication causes low immunity within the birds as a whole. This then creates a roller coaster effect which takes some controlling. I have witnessed this effect in lofts where fanciers are fighting a losing battle due to the over use of medication and it long term usage causing suppressed immunity. It’s so easy to avoid by not overcrowding in the first place. Quality pigeons will reign supreme over quantity. Another key aspect is Patience. This must be applied in a hundred and one different ways. First never rush in to purchasing new stock without a lot of homework studying the performances and honesty of the fancier concerned. Never believe everything fanciers tell you until you see the facts in black and white. If they say their bloodlines have won this and that ask to see the result sheets. If they say they’ve bred winners for other fanciers ask to see the facts. You are in your rights to see any information regarding anything they are claiming. Have patience in preparing your race birds. Don’t do anything silly regarding training in poor conditions just so you can meet the deadline for the first race of the season. You want your race team to enjoy what they are doing and to be attentive in their work. Try to avoid training in cold north east winds at the beginning of the season and if you must train in these conditions, drop the pigeons at a shorter distance of about 10 miles so not to sicken the team before you’ve really got started. It takes a few weeks to get your racers in top form and only one silly mistake to knock them off form over night. Watch your birds carefully, study ever individual pigeon in your loft to find out their likes and dislikes which will allow you to get the best from everyone of them in turn. I must say pigeon racing isn’t rocket science it is just a matter of using common sense. If a pigeon shows to you what turns them on, what they like in life to make him/her happy use that to your advantage to get the best from him/her on race days.good read delboy
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