Todays Times & Returns

[moscow master]

Something at fed level for the first three young bird races in every fed soon as the birds rung or bleeped over the pad the basket convenyor goes dab dab and into the basket who gives a fk if there rung there my birds I can put anything I want on them if you don't want anything to happen to your birds train them not to eat mine simple as that

[b.massey]

Something at fed level for the first three young bird races in every fed soon as the birds rung or bleeped over the pad the basket convenyor goes dab dab and into the basket who gives a fk if there rung there my birds I can put anything I want on them if you don't want anything to happen to your birds train them not to eat mine simple as that

 

[tyson]

listen lads be careful what you are saying on here as other people could be reading this as well

[Tony C]

http://blogs.scottishwildlifetrust.org.uk/fallsofclyde/2015/05/15/intern-diary-week-9-peregrine-population-status/

 

Intern Diary Week 9 – Peregrine population status

 

Posted on May 15, 2015 by fallsofclyde

 

 

I apologize for the tardiness of the post as this was supposed to have been published last week. However after writing my draft I completely forgot to post it so here it is.

 

It was a great weekend here at the Peregrine Watch! With a sunny Saturday and lazy peregrines we had great views of our pair.

 

They spent most of the time sitting around but kept showing mating behaviour and brought in prey almost every day. Because it was a bit quieter we had time to have great conversations with visitors from all over the world. I love when we can do that as it is my favourite part of working with the public!

 

Scruffy tiercel © Cat Fonseca

Scruffy tiercel © Cat Fonseca

 

Now that our peregrines are showing signs of being done with their contribution to population number increase, I have been doing a bit of reading about Peregrine Falcon populations and their conservation status.

On a global scale, peregrines are classified as Least Concern by the IUCN in the Red List of Threatened Species. This status is due to their vast distribution (in every continent except Antarctica) and large, stable population estimated at 1200000 in 2004. However, because the species is so widespread, a favourable global conservation status doesn’t mean they are doing well in Scotland, so I dug a little deeper.

In the UK there was a major population decline in the 19th and 20th century mainly because of illegal killing and the accumulation of persistent agricultural chemicals (like DDT) in the food chain. A census of peregrine breeding pairs conducted by the BTO, JNCC, RSPB and Raptor Study Groups every 10 years has revealed some good news for the most part: in the late 1990s numbers had increased to pre-DDT levels in the UK and there has been a slow steady increase since. The last figure, obtained in 2002, was of 1400 breeding pairs, 10% more than in 1991. Of these 544 are found in Scotland.

So overall those are good news! Areas like the southwest, southeast, northeast, Orkney and the Western Isles have shown increases to different degrees; unfortunately Argyll and the Highlands are suffering a decrease and there are no peregrines in the Shetland Islands.

 

What really matters though is that you’ll always be able to see them from one of the best viewpoints in the UK here at the Falls of Clyde

 

 

So where/how can we get the 2012 count?

[Delboy]

Maybe The Freedom of Information Act should make it possible to get these figures Tony

[tyson]

you could probably double that number every year for the last ten year as when you look at the webcams they all seemto have 3/4 young in nest come on who are they kidding I reckin theremust be at least 20000 pair or more in the uk and the worst populated areas seem to be from Yorkshire down to the south coast with all them breeding boxes that they keep putting up every where its time to fight back lads or raceing as we know it finished

[b.massey]

you could probably double that number every year for the last ten year as when you look at the webcams they all seemto have 3/4 young in nest come on who are they kidding I reckin theremust be at least 20000 pair or more in the uk and the worst populated areas seem to be from Yorkshire down to the south coast with all them breeding boxes that they keep putting up every where its time to fight back lads or raceing as we know it finished

 

 

the hen not need to be around 3 years old to breed? they will not be counting the thousands of them 3 and under!! rather that just say there is an exact number of BOP they say breeding pairs because of the ages hens need to be

[tyson]

disna matter whether its 3 years or not they all still have to feed

[b.massey]

disna matter whether its 3 years or not they all still have to feed

 

 

Obv Peter! But they wont go in the count for breeding pairs will they! My point is that rather than a breeding count there should just be a single count on exactly how many!

[Delboy]

Obv Peter! But they wont go in the count for breeding pairs will they! My point is that rather than a breeding count there should just be a single count on exactly how many!

 

That's a very good point Brian, there are so many single unmated peregrines. In fact, Im sure I read somewhere they are about 3 years old before they mate.

[moscow master]

That's a very good point Brian, there are so many single unmated peregrines. In fact, Im sure I read somewhere they are about 3 years old before they mate.

That's right del their called juveniles

[b.massey]

Fly way of not giving exact details on numbers

 

I cant see any counts that's been in the last 7/10 years

[Delboy]

Still cant get my head round having 7 hawked at the weekend, think about the amount of failed attacks the pigeons must have endured too. They must be getting attacked every 15-20 miles, unreal. In a race of 360 miles they probably get attacked 20 times, its frightening to think their mental state when they get home.Believe me , the pigeon games finished unless.....

[b.massey]

Still cant get my head round having 7 hawked at the weekend, think about the amount of failed attacks the pigeons must have endured too. They must be getting attacked every 15-20 miles, unreal. In a race of 360 miles they probably get attacked 20 times, its frightening to think their mental state when they get home.Believe me , the pigeon games finished unless.....

 

 

Numbers are big in racing now as its a lottery for the batches that come up without little attacks compared to other batches being smashed up!

 

I cant even send 4 birds 20 miles without getting hit! Big team will always get birds through and in clock due to law of averages, Small team men are either going to need to re work how they work or finish up! You cant fulfil a season now with 10/12 birds unless very lucky but luck will run out

 

My example:

 

Started with 14 (7 pair)

Dropped 1 training (13)

Dropped 2 race 1 (11)

Dropped 1 race 2 (10)

Dropped 3 race 3 (7)

Stopped 2 after it (5)

Dropped 1 race 5 (4)

 

Had the same 4 until race 7 when I had 1 missing

She showed up sunday minus tail flight but okay

 

trained this week and 1 home late and been nailed with hawk and burst wing

 

That's me now got 3 left and only flew racing to 213 miles!

 

1- I am rubbish and bad management

2- birds are rubbish

3- been nailed with hawks

 

I've had 1 reported that was flown out! and was south west from race point so clashed or chased off flight

 

Too many birds are being lost but not reported telling me mostly are dead from BOP

 

In another subject anyone who knows me knows I like my shows- BEEN Cleaned out!