flying fifer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Hi All, have weaned off 15 early bred youngsters and studied a DVD on keeping youngsters on 24hrs a day light. Have them set up to go, is there any obvious pitfalls or tips from anyone on site that I can use to assist in this experiment. Thanks in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulkie Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I tried it about 20 years ago got them to their second last flight wasted my young bird season The DVD i followed was Sampson bros of USA ,they were never on 24 hrs light And you had to pull half the tail feathers And when they were half way up pull the other half .i felt that at the Time i couldnt give them a 100% as i worked long hours ,but in saying that i think if you master The system you will be hard to beat.i have Plenty of time now ,but im afraid my get up And go Has got up an went .good luck hope it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovy1255 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You will be flying y/birds on their last few flight. If you want this system to work get your fed to start y/bird racing later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying fifer Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 You will be flying y/birds on their last few flight. If you want this system to work get your fed to start y/bird racing later. My feelings are the season might end too soon, hence the small amount of birds I'm trying. It has been great being able to spend time in the evening with the youngsters instead of having to rush to get the Darkness curtains closed. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, always been a trier. AW THE BEST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.massey Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 My feelings are the season might end too soon, hence the small amount of birds I'm trying. It has been great being able to spend time in the evening with the youngsters instead of having to rush to get the Darkness curtains closed. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, always been a trier. AW THE BEST Best of luck Gavin, If you find it works i'll be first to buy the DVD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Keep us posted on it Gavin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovy1255 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 gav if you are rearing them with the lights on you can cause the parents to start an early moult and ruin some of your old bird races--ok if they are from stockkeep us informed how they are progressing during the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white logan Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 gav if you are rearing them with the lights on you can cause the parents to start an early moult and ruin some of your old bird races--ok if they are from stockkeep us informed how they are progressing during the year. I was thinking of extending light by five hours to rear my show racers and wondered if extending light has any detrimental effects on the parents ?I intend to take three rounds off them if possible so any input from experienced fanciers would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I have seen a video of this and pulling the tail of a young bird is not my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I have seen a video of this and pulling the tail of a young bird is not my cup of tea.Believe you have to cut & pull the last two primary flights as well. Not for me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Believe you have to cut & pull the last two primary flights as well. Not for me neither.Harry and Percy pull enough flights out, without us pulling any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 ovy is correct in saying the light can interfere with the pairents moult but i think this only happens if the pairents are not right through the moult ie maybe still on there end flight 4or5 years ago when i was playing with december breeding i had the light on from 3to9 at night and everything went ok it was a pretty mild year the following year it was bitter cold in december and some of my stock birds were still on there last flight because it was so cold i thought it would be a good idea to leave the lights on 24 7 as the heat from the bulbs were taking the chill out the air and it stoped my drinkers from freezing which i thought was good but when i handled some of the stock birds after a few weeks i was shocked to fined there end flight was over three inch longer than the rest of the flights so lesson learned have to be very carefull with lights when birds are still moulting but good luck with it m8 let us know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew suckle Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Well it works for cally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying fifer Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks for all comments and posts. Will try to cover all comments by saying, the birds are bred by the stock birds at a seperate location so doesn't interfere with moult of race birds. Am aware that I will have to cut and pull end flights, not so sure about tail. It is only an experiment to see how they compete with the Darkness youngsters. The main reason for trying it was it allows me to spend time with the youngsters when they are first weaned instead of having to rush to get the curtains up after coming home from work. Will keep you posted on progress and how they perform, will try to get some photos up, thanks again......AW THE BEST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tambla51 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks for all comments and posts. Will try to cover all comments by saying, the birds are bred by the stock birds at a seperate location so doesn't interfere with moult of race birds. Am aware that I will have to cut and pull end flights, not so sure about tail. It is only an experiment to see how they compete with the Darkness youngsters. The main reason for trying it was it allows me to spend time with the youngsters when they are first weaned instead of having to rush to get the curtains up after coming home from work. Will keep you posted on progress and how they perform, will try to get some photos up, thanks again......AW THE BESTContact Nigel laycock he done well on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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