gulkie Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Spell it out in laymans terms why exactly Are we being refused an EGM when The Proper procedurÄ™ has Been carried out And more than enough signetures Have Been acrued ,i will wait till i see what the outcome is then i will decide my Coarse of action which club i will fly with ,even although i have paid my dues toSNFC that dont matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I doubt it will ever get sorted out. Some think it will and will go along and pay their fees whether they fly with them or not. They think it'll be sorted on or before the next AGM. Just cant see it, got serious doubts about that. :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: Might as well Rattle yer heed off a brick wall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamsie Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 If this case/letter was presented to the SNFC committee, the President should've stepped outside and let the Senior VP take over. If the Pres did not do this and has discussed this matter then that in itself is reason for a vote of no confidence . The president did chair the discussion/meeting about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The president did chair the discussion/meeting about this. No way should he have been even in the room.This is basic protocol, unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The president did chair the discussion/meeting about this.Surely not, the President is at the heart for the whole issue, therefore cannot possible be allowed to have any influence or input on any discussions or decisions on this matter.That's a basic requisite of any democratic process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Surely not, the President is at the heart for the whole issue, therefore cannot possible be allowed to have any influence or input on any discussions or decisions on this matter.That's a basic requisite of any democratic process. if i was bettin man i think he may be stirring it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 if i was bettin man i think he may be stirring it ?If any should be able to spot a stirrer then my money would be on you John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 If any should be able to spot a stirrer then my money would be on you Johnthat may be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymac Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 from looking outside in ....ye all need to get a big boot in the baws ...wake up and act accordingly...The snrpc running smooth ...the snfc a shambles from top to bottom ....members need to sort this out and Pigeon Basics needs to stop locking threads on this matter. Its here for people to discuss and if any abusive posts then delete them posts not lock the thread Scottish national racing is a Joke at the minute people, in particular snfc with accusations and cover ups ... AGM should have sorted things ..but obviously not enough disgruntled members attended or grievances not put forward. You are all to blame ....but EGM if it takes that to sort ..then needs done sooner than later outsider lookin in...jmo MickAs another outsider looking in MIK I totally agree, well said :emoticon-0137-clapping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 As another outsider looking in MIK I totally agree, well said :emoticon-0137-clapping:A large number of members didn't know anything about this issue until after the AGM, the SNFC Committee didn't exactly shout it from the roof tops what had happened and what the outcome of the investigation was and when some asked questions about it at the AGM they where denied the chance.So the Ex Committee are the Main reason for this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 A large number of members didn't know anything about this issue until after the AGM, the SNFC Committee didn't exactly shout it from the roof tops what had happened and what the outcome of the investigation was and when some asked questions about it at the AGM they where denied the chance.So the Ex Committee are the Main reason for this issue.was put on the snfc web page on the 16/9/14 about it. Race Incident 2014Upon discovery by the convoyers of a top back lid seal missing on one of the baskets at the liberation site at Ypres the President instructed the convoyers to record all ring details and re-rubber all the birds in this basket in the presence of Stefaan van Moerbeke - our contact and adviser at Ypres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 was put on the snfc web page on the 16/9/14 about it. Race Incident 2014Upon discovery by the convoyers of a top back lid seal missing on one of the baskets at the liberation site at Ypres the President instructed the convoyers to record all ring details and re-rubber all the birds in this basket in the presence of Stefaan van Moerbeke - our contact and adviser at Ypres.Dusnae really matter when it came to light Davie. The place to sort it was the AGM and it wusnae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Dusnae really matter when it came to light Davie. The place to sort it was the AGM and it wusnae.i agree with you. but not on here. were you at the meeting this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 was put on the snfc web page on the 16/9/14 about it. Race Incident 2014Upon discovery by the convoyers of a top back lid seal missing on one of the baskets at the liberation site at Ypres the President instructed the convoyers to record all ring details and re-rubber all the birds in this basket in the presence of Stefaan van Moerbeke - our contact and adviser at Ypres.Yes Davy your right, I personally didn't see it their and didn't know about it, but they didn't publish that they had committee meeting(s) and what the outcome was, also I feel that with the nature of the issue the Committee should have clarified the whole A-Z of the issue at the AGM, and given the members a platform for debate, this could have stirred it up or cleared it up, but to say nothing I feel was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yes Davy your right, I personally didn't see it their and didn't know about it, but they didn't publish that they had committee meeting(s) and what the outcome was, also I feel that with the nature of the issue the Committee should have clarified the whole A-Z of the issue at the AGM, and given the members a platform for debate, this could have stirred it up or cleared it up, but to say nothing I feel was wrong. i agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 i agree with youAccording to the SNFC news, the issue is ongoing, so watch this space, P.S. as I said earlier the President should have no part in any of this due to being part of the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okidoaki Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is thare any contracters like catteralls stil in the sport cause perhaps wi everyhing that's hapended it might b the best way foward for the snfc. Whit feds wi lose oot if this appens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullcock Posted February 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is thare any contracters like catteralls stil in the sport cause perhaps wi everyhing that's hapended it might b the best way foward for the snfc. Whit feds wi lose oot if this appens?One step at a time mate, the committee will organize the transport as normal, no individuals can arrange it, don't muddy the waters lets wait and see what the outcome is before suggesting the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 i agree with you. but not on here. were you at the meeting this yearNever been tae a meeting in my puff Davey. Maybe i should lol. Men frae the fechan usually get it done lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkj Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Never been tae a meeting in my puff Davey. Maybe i should lol. Men frae the fechan usually get it done lol thats good. mind be there next year. thats what the snfc need folk with the snfc at heart.still the greatest club in the land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Time to let the guys in the back ground get on with it and start talking about getting our doos in tip top condition for your chosen races whether it be with the fed snfc or snrpc or any organisation I wish every single one of you guys the best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Naw no stirring Tiger, just saying it a how see it. Don't think am known for stirring. Ive been a member on basics for a wee while longer than you have a no Tiger, but chose not to comment on things for a long time especially itchy subjects. Av stuck my neck out more than enough in the past for people and seen what real thanks ye get! A thought people had some rights about speaking out and giving their opinions if they so wished. You've got a lot more posts on basics tiger than I have so you've clearly had plenty to say about a lot of things since you became a member while I stayed quiet. However ur entitled to ur opinions on what ever you feel tiger. The trouble is though tiger when people stay quiet on certain subjects for fear that things will go against them and they might be targeted that's when it all goes wrong. What am saying is the people knowingly doing wrong will continue to do wrong if people don't say anything. When nobody keeps wrongdoers in check then things snowball, just giving people license to do what they want. Oh and another thing av ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS GOT MYSELF IN MORE TROUBLE TELLING THE TRUTH THAN I EVER HAVE TELLING LIES! You know as well as me some don't like the truth and that is a fact. Better sticking to the thread though tiger this is about SNRPC/SNFC is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valiant Fifer Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Just what a would expect from u Jock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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