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Surely the club boundaries should stop anybody moving club easily? Suppose iys diffo for us in the south as its all rural

thats the prob the clubs are getting smaller and opeing thare bounderes to stay aflot with no consideration of section bounderes that dont exisr any way i think so who made the sections up the fed or the clubs all sems a bit mesy now

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thats the prob the clubs are getting smaller and opeing thare bounderes to stay aflot with no consideration of section bounderes that dont exisr any way i think so who made the sections up the fed or the clubs all sems a bit mesy now

True Tam, but there is no way I could get in a dumfries club.......no matter how fooked the club was......It just wudnae happen or be of help to either club, fed or member

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no sections in our fed you either top it or don't lol

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no sections in our fed you either top it or don't lol

Works better if yer fed is north to south mainly unlike solway which is 60miles wide by 30 miles north to south

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i know that in clubs here folk can all be in one club but in a different fed section as each section has a boundrie . It dosent matter what club your in its where your loft is situated determins section

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The people at the top should be addressing this situation, The Federation should have its own section boundaries based on loft location not clubs. The situation where two men flying in the same federation that stay next door but because one man is a member of one club and the other is a member of an other which means they fly in two different sections is just silly.

 

If people are willing to abuse rules to gain advantage in that they fly in a certain section, sections would be as well done away with and have 50 open positions which is far truer result anyway. how many times has birds that have been 16th and 17th section actually been 16th/17th open but recieve nothing where as a pigeon can be 15th in another section but be well into the hundreds in terms of an open position if the result we looked at was a true reflection.

 

If people start joining clubs to fly in sections as as been spoke about on this thread sections are as well being done away with,but what should happen is the people at the top should stand up and determine the boundaries for each section and get some common sense into the sport.

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when i asked the fed said it was club bisnes not the feds and thares not much thay can doo about it

i would agree with the the fed that its up to the clubs who they let in and are prepaired to let fly for there club prizes thats club business but not if the clubs involed are taking in guys that are in different sections of the fed as it then affects everyone in that section and they have no say so in this case its fed business imo if not burnbank club can let a dozen airdrie guys in next year and no one in the westsection can do a thing about it aye right time it was sorted im sure you would win your case at the shu only takes one to object but no one wants to do that and look the bad guy thats why it should be taken out the clubs hands if the person they let in has there loft in a different section boundry from the mother club if the club and new member accept they are only competing for fed prizes in the section that there loft sits fine but the fed must be the overseer imo or its wide open to abuse

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The people at the top should be addressing this situation, The Federation should have its own section boundaries based on loft location not clubs. The situation where two men flying in the same federation that stay next door but because one man is a member of one club and the other is a member of an other which means they fly in two different sections is just silly.

 

If people are willing to abuse rules to gain advantage in that they fly in a certain section, sections would be as well done away with and have 50 open positions which is far truer result anyway. how many times has birds that have been 16th and 17th section actually been 16th/17th open but recieve nothing where as a pigeon can be 15th in another section but be well into the hundreds in terms of an open position if the result we looked at was a true reflection.

 

If people start joining clubs to fly in sections as as been spoke about on this thread sections are as well being done away with,but what should happen is the people at the top should stand up and determine the boundaries for each section and get some common sense into the sport.

some use this loop hole in snfc to get into west region by joining feds in that area when clearly there are members futher west than them in the east section because there federation deems this . when boundries set up that way there will always be tactical fence hoopers

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i know that in clubs here folk can all be in one club but in a different fed section as each section has a boundrie . It dosent matter what club your in its where your loft is situated determins section

correct rab and thats how it should be

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The people at the top should be addressing this situation, The Federation should have its own section boundaries based on loft location not clubs. The situation where two men flying in the same federation that stay next door but because one man is a member of one club and the other is a member of an other which means they fly in two different sections is just silly.

 

If people are willing to abuse rules to gain advantage in that they fly in a certain section, sections would be as well done away with and have 50 open positions which is far truer result anyway. how many times has birds that have been 16th and 17th section actually been 16th/17th open but recieve nothing where as a pigeon can be 15th in another section but be well into the hundreds in terms of an open position if the result we looked at was a true reflection.

 

If people start joining clubs to fly in sections as as been spoke about on this thread sections are as well being done away with,but what should happen is the people at the top should stand up and determine the boundaries for each section and get some common sense into the sport.

spot on mate

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correct rab and thats how it should be

yip walter should be same for all feds and nats m8

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some use this loop hole in snfc to get into west region by joining feds in that area when clearly there are members futher west than them in the east section because there federation deems this . when boundries set up that way there will always be tactical fence hoopers

 

they have to stay in the section they competed in since 2004 unless they move loftemoticon-0138-thinking.gif page 15,13c

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they have to stay in the section they competed in since 2004 unless they move loftemoticon-0138-thinking.gif page 15,13c

yes but plenty are in wtong section now becaose of pre 2004 when they could change section at will . A new member joining who is in the east could join a fed in the west so would go into the west region which should still not happen fixed boundrie end off .

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i know that in clubs here folk can all be in one club but in a different fed section as each section has a boundrie . It dosent matter what club your in its where your loft is situated determins section

totaly agree mate

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yip walter should be same for all feds and nats m8

 

Rab, im a mile west of you and im in sect E and you and everyone else around here are in sect F. The 2004 SNFC rule was put in place by Scott Gibson, say no more :emoticon-0127-lipssealed::emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Rab, im a mile west of you and im in sect E and you and everyone else around here are in sect F. The 2004 SNFC rule was put in place by Scott Gibson, say no more :emoticon-0127-lipssealed::emoticon-0136-giggle:

of toppic keep it to fed bisnes please lol

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yes but plenty are in wtong section now becaose of pre 2004 when they could change section at will . A new member joining who is in the east could join a fed in the west so would go into the west region which should still not happen fixed boundrie end off .

 

Read the rule Rab

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Rab, im a mile west of you and im in sect E and you and everyone else around here are in sect F. The 2004 SNFC rule was put in place by Scott Gibson, say no more :emoticon-0127-lipssealed::emoticon-0136-giggle:

you were in section f to at one point same as everyone else you only went to E when you joined another fed . I was also in the midland fed for 25 years but was never out of glasgow so glasgow was my main fed where i paid my shu fees although i didint race in it for long time . Still say it should have a boundrie save the hassle .

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yes but plenty are in wtong section now becaose of pre 2004 when they could change section at will . A new member joining who is in the east could join a fed in the west so would go into the west region which should still not happen fixed boundrie end off .

your right again rab so snfc should be sorting that out but think they did have a prob this year but dont know if the guy had just put down the wrong section on his sheet or could have been a wee mistake by snfc but it held up the ypres money if i remember right

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you were in section f to at one point same as everyone else you only went to E when you joined another fed . I was also in the midland fed for 25 years but was never out of glasgow so glasgow was my main fed where i paid my shu fees although i didint race in it for long time . Still say it should have a boundrie save the hassle .

 

I know Rab but its all wrong, we canny be next to each other and different sections. ps. All the other Kirky members except 1 went back into sect F , so double standards.

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as someone allready said on here there will always be someone just out dell as they say you have to draw the line some where m8 but the men at the top should be sorting this as rab says it should be where your loft is in a section not the club you are in jmo

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as someone allready said on here there will always be someone just out dell as they say you have to draw the line some where m8 but the men at the top should be sorting this as rab says it should be where your loft is in a section not the club you are in jmo

 

Wattie, im not on the border m8, im right in the middle of Kirky .I flew in sect F for many years. Its all wrong and is needing sorted at the top. Off topic again lol.

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Wattie, im not on the border m8, im right in the middle of Kirky .I flew in sect F for many years. Its all wrong and is needing sorted at the top. Off topic again lol.

i think they just drew a circle round you derek lol

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