Would Like To Here Of A Scottish Select

Rooster J. Cogburn · August 31, 2014

The late Billy Parkes, a fancier who won out of turn at every distance out to 500 + miles, was of the belief there was more skill involved in winning shorter races than scoring from the French race points.

You could argue for and against this point.

Depending on where you stay it can actually be easier to top your fed from 500 miles than from 50.

Delboy · August 31, 2014

The late Billy Parkes, a fancier who won out of turn at every distance out to 500 + miles, was of the belief there was more skill involved in winning shorter races than scoring from the French race points.

You could argue for and against this point.

Depending on where you stay it can actually be easier to top your fed from 500 miles than from 50.

That might be true Lewis but we are talking about over here.

A guy Stevie Kelly started pigeons in Lanarkshire. He knew fek all about doos, in fact he would tell ye this himself. He got a NW stray in and it topped the Lanarkshire fed 3 weeks in a row.Stevie knew nothing about keeping pigeons.He fed what he could get a hold of, he didn't train or hardly even let them out. The pigeon flew in spite of him. This NW Sprint pigeon blew everything out the water in Lanarkshire. I could give ye a dozen stories like this. Look at the amount of guys that score with superMacs doos. They are that good they score for everyone that gets them.Because the Macs are top pigeon men as well as having the tools, they win out of turn with team performances.

tommy bhoys · August 31, 2014

That might be true Lewis but we are talking about over here.
A guy Stevie Kelly started pigeons in Lanarkshire. He knew fek all about doos, in fact he would tell ye this himself. He got a NW stray in and it topped the Lanarkshire fed 3 weeks in a row.Stevie knew nothing about keeping pigeons.He fed what he could get a hold of, he didn't train or hardly even let them out. The pigeon flew in spite of him. This NW Sprint pigeon blew everything out the water in Lanarkshire. I could give ye a dozen stories like this. Look at the amount of guys that score with superMacs doos. They are that good they score for everyone that gets them.Because the Macs are top pigeon men as well as having the tools, they win out of turn with team performances.

well del i only have what you would call sprint pigeons and i still try tae go to all race points to be honest if i was distant minded i would be down under the local bridge ringing birds as these are the type of pigeons you need tae home from these race points homers everyone to there own big man :animatedpigeons:

Rooster J. Cogburn · August 31, 2014

That might be true Lewis but we are talking about over here.
A guy Stevie Kelly started pigeons in Lanarkshire. He knew fek all about doos, in fact he would tell ye this himself. He got a NW stray in and it topped the Lanarkshire fed 3 weeks in a row.Stevie knew nothing about keeping pigeons.He fed what he could get a hold of, he didn't train or hardly even let them out. The pigeon flew in spite of him. This NW Sprint pigeon blew everything out the water in Lanarkshire. I could give ye a dozen stories like this. Look at the amount of guys that score with superMacs doos. They are that good they score for everyone that gets them.Because the Macs are top pigeon men as well as having the tools, they win out of turn with team performances.

That's the kind of strays ye want to get in :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Kyleakin Lofts · August 31, 2014

Simple really a specialist club within feds etc the Sprint lads go to the inland races alongside the other birds up to whatever distance specified and the members of the club nom their birds the rest of the season the longer races they have a choice they send or they don't
The distance lads don't like the shorter races but see a need and a preference for others
If they want extra racing a 60_100 mile race can be sorted using a small trailer big enough to accommodate the birds comfortably and go the day of the race
If I've picked it up wrong just ignore me lol

Good post Davy, if they want to accommodate sprint racing.

If they could get their act together, instead of playing mini despots, feds could go together for the longer races and use the idle transporter to go together for the sprint / middle races allowing injured / prep races for setting up distance candidates.

Simple really, but as Rab said elsewhere, everyone has an opinion, so agreement will never be reached and we will rush into oblivion, instead of slowing the progress in that direction.

Short fast races, with lots of excitement, open to punting by the general public, be it in the local hostelries or even better organised, and perhaps more of the public would get behind us and possibly even join our ranks.

Kyleakin Lofts · August 31, 2014

I think everyone initially wants to fly the distance George, that's the ultimate for everyone when they start up.Then they discover its so fekin hard after a few years they opt for the easier races.Im not knocking that because I can understand this mentality nowadays.Distance racing is soul destroying lol.

Instant gratification is what most look for nowadays.

Distance racing takes many years to develop your family and the knowledge of how to manage to do it. Then the hard knocks, so a special mentality is required. That mentality is lacking nowadays, very few persevere at anything. It used to be items were made to last and were worth repairing when broken, but nowadays they are made to throw away, rather than repair.

We live in a throwaway society and this mentality is not conducive to the perseverance required for distance racing.

Delboy · August 31, 2014

Instant gratification is what most look for nowadays.

Distance racing takes many years to develop your family and the knowledge of how to manage to do it. Then the hard knocks, so a special mentality is required. That mentality is lacking nowadays, very few persevere at anything. It used to be items were made to last and were worth repairing when broken, but nowadays they are made to throw away, rather than repair.

We live in a throwaway society and this mentality is not conducive to the perseverance required for distance racing.

good post

geordie1234 · August 31, 2014

So because someone prefers sprint racing they don't have the correct mentality lol

I still believe its harder to beat 7000 than it is to beat 200 in a section

August 31, 2014

So because someone prefers sprint racing they don't have the correct mentality lol

I still believe its harder to beat 7000 than it is to beat 200 in a section

this is what you are up against george nat men will bed hop with any one, that is taking them to a race, they dont give to friggs to any federation but want, to bawl and shout about hours on the wing, but the real facts are they do not carry any more than 500 birds when going to the national beetween 65 members in our fed, wich is about 8 birds each, that they doss about with, 500 birds trying to control 7,500 birds at times.

Edited August 31, 2014 by bigda

gulkie · August 31, 2014

You hit it on the head Derek you got to have the right tools for the job

A donkey won't win Cheltenham gold cup

Kyleakin Lofts · August 31, 2014

So because someone prefers sprint racing they don't have the correct mentality lol

I still believe its harder to beat 7000 than it is to beat 200 in a section

That's not what I meant George.

It takes a different mentality for the distance races. Some enjoy sprint and there is nothing wrong with that. Some enjoy distance and likewise nothing wrong. Some enjoy the lot, just like yourself, again nothing wrong.

It takes all sorts to make up the world and unless they are completely out of step with the rest there is nothing wrong with that. If they are completely out of step, maybe they are just different or even specially gifted. Never discount anyone, but rather treasure everyone you meet. They all add to your experience of life and your future ability to help others.

Kyleakin Lofts · August 31, 2014

this is what you are up against george nat men will bed hop with any one, that is taking them to a race, they dont give to friggs to any federation but want, to bawl and shout about hours on the wing, but the real facts are they do not carry any more than 500 birds when going to the national beetween 65 members in our fed, wich is about 8 birds each, that they doss about with, 500 birds trying to control 7,500 birds at times.

You are correct to an extent Danny. Distance men require time on the wing for their pigeons to prepare them for their race, but I think it ends there.

The reason there are less racing at that distance is because it is harder to get them back and to have any left capable of even going.

Yes, without the other federation members, cost would be prohibitive, but that is not their fault. Historically racing was set up to aim for increasing distances and what we are experiencing now is the opposite, driven mainly by social reasons. Get them back quick so we can go out an enjoy the rest of the evening instead of hanging around waiting on the return of pigeons.

Should we abandon the aim of increasing distance completely or should we re-organise to allow this aim to continue, but not to be the be all?

just ask me · August 31, 2014

different strokes for different folks

try win a inland race in the nipa or in the dublin south road can be 10,000 birds plus not done easily personally id like to try my hand at what is the competitive where i live

there way too many splits in pigeon racing people falling out etc the organizations in the north of Ireland are amazing with the troubles politics etc and they still race against each other while others run from good compo :emoticon-0138-thinking: