Losses too high in National racing into Scotland?

[Ian McKay]

Cheers Alf

[greenlands]

Hi bigda, the Solway Firth yesterday was blacked out with heavy mist on and off most of the day,how far inland this mist went on your side of the border I don't know but every now and then various areas on this side were very misty and the visiblilty very poor.Don't know if this would be there when the birds were passing the Carlisle area.I live just outside of Maryport.

[nagid]

what you on about vinny not long ago it was your fed to but you lot seem to like it in a small way ie two bob fed and two bob national.your losing your memory along wae your marbles

[nogin]

what you on about vinny not long ago it was your fed to but you lot seem to like it in a small way ie two bob fed and two bob national.your losing your memory along wae your marbles

 

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[Guest bigda]

Hi bigda, the Solway Firth yesterday was blacked out with heavy mist on and off most of the day,how far inland this mist went on your side of the border I don't know but every now and then various areas on this side were very misty and the visiblilty very poor.Don't know if this would be there when the birds were passing the Carlisle area.I live just outside of Maryport.

 

maryport nice part of the world but for them  windmills   :o

[Guest bigda]

Hi bigda, the Solway Firth yesterday was blacked out with heavy mist on and off most of the day,how far inland this mist went on your side of the border I don't know but every now and then various areas on this side were very misty and the visiblilty very poor.Don't know if this would be there when the birds were passing the Carlisle area.I live just outside of Maryport.

 

thanks for your report mate  as that was never  said  untill you said that, of course that  would not help the  westerly birds  as the only open end to them must have been easterly

shame relay  but thats the way our weather  is if its not that then its westerly winds however its the next day birds that bothers me in the time they take in returning  as they should not be far from home abut that is the strangest part of it all  some take as long as the race its  self

[Guest]

what you on about vinny not long ago it was your fed to but you lot seem to like it in a small way ie two bob fed and two bob national.your losing your memory along wae your marbles

 

It was in relation to bigdas love of the fed that he is always harping on about,of which i am still a member .So for Danny to highlight that national loses are a big problem i was just pointing out that issues closer to himself have been a lot worse.And as for two bob comments tut tut Marshall.

[nagid]

ok then ten bob that better.must be great in that fed yous dont lose any.

[Guest]

ok then ten bob that better.must be great in that fed yous dont lose any.

 

You are missing the point Marshall,it was not a dig at the fed merely an observation regarding the threads topic.

[nogin]

 

It was in relation to bigdas love of the fed that he is always harping on about,of which i am still a member .So for Danny to highlight that national loses are a big problem i was just pointing out that issues closer to himself have been a lot worse.And as for two bob comments tut tut Marshall.

 

AT LEAST WE STICK BY OUR FED NOT LIKE YOU JUMPING SHIP.

[ALF]

 

AT LEAST WE STICK BY OUR FED NOT LIKE YOU JUMPING SHIP.

 

Nogin did he not say he was still in our fed???

[Guest bigda]

vincey you have missed the point, the distance racing  is by members who  know how to set there birds up for these type of races, this particular race  is totally different to that of the fed,  yes  there birds raced the fed  and came out of the smash,  but  there are allot that hasn't  this time  any idea as to why !

[Guest]

 

AT LEAST WE STICK BY OUR FED NOT LIKE YOU JUMPING SHIP.

 

Look i entered into a partnership with my stepfather and if the rule 33 did not exist i would be a member of both.So rules are barring me no jumping ship. :-/ :-/ :-/

[nogin]

 

Nogin did he not say he was still in our fed???

 

AYE BUT NOT FOR LONG....HE THINKS HE'S GOT A LOOPHOLE.

[ALF]

 

AYE BUT NOT FOR LONG....HE THINKS HE'S GOT A LOOPHOLE.

 

Everybody that wants to be in our fed and another at the same time has a loophole ;)

[Chris Little]

Bigda has kicked off a thread which has a serious tone to it but as expected squabbling is never far away ??) who cares what fed or which national we all fly in, the bottom line is this year's SNRPC / SNFC young bird nationals have been poor

 

Thankfully we never sent to any of them but I do feel for the guys have lost a lot of birds..... and well done to those who all timed.... in both nationals

 

I have yet to speak to any Solway guys about yesterdays race but last week there was 1/6 , 1/10..... we simply cannot keep on going like this.

 

 

[Guest bigda]

didnt think you where  a bed hopper there vincey,   cosy is it

[nagid]

what im trying to say is if there was one big race for all.with all birds going same way surely it would be better for the birds and for us.and to win that would be a true national win

[nogin]

didnt think you where  a bed hopper there vincey,   cosy is it

 

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[Guest bigda]

Bigda has kicked off a thread which has a serious tone to it but as expected squabbling is never far away ??) who cares what fed or which national we all fly in, the bottom line is this year's SNRPC / SNFC young bird nationals have been poor

 

Thankfully we never sent to any of them but I do feel for the guys have lost a lot of birds..... and well done to those who all timed.... in both nationals

 

I have yet to speak to any Sol way guys about yesterdays race but last week there was 1/6 , 1/10..... we simply cannot keep on going like this.

 

the situation is now serious  and if we don't act on it now the solway guys are gone forever then it will move up ever closer till there no more,  ask the national and the Shu  if the  could help our plight  and any other  to join in and  trying GPSS or such thinks it could  well be the birds do fly in a straight line till the come up against a mast and that send them around in circles we will never know until we  try this and that out

 

 

[slinky slitheroe]

what im trying to say is if there was one big race for all.with all birds going same way surely it would be better for the birds and for us.and to win that would be a true national win

Well said national means nation and that is the way it should be theresc only room for one national and that should be the snfc.

 

 

[Guest]

vincey you have missed the point, the distance racing  is by members who  know how to set there birds up for these type of races, this particular race  is totally different to that of the fed,  yes  there birds raced the fed  and came out of the smash,  but  there are allot that hasn't  this time  any idea as to why !

 

The majority are quite simply not good enough for national racing mate,especially when it comes to 500 mile racing when the bird has to do it on its own.As to young bird racing,the ybn is the first time these birds have had to race within a convoy of birds racing into all areas of Scotland and not racing with big convoys into the one area.Young bird health also posses big problems that were not present 25 years ago,and remember the 98% sh..e rule which i agree with relating to 500 mile racing.

[Novice]

I beiieve Gem have gps systems for pigeons.

http://www.gemsupplements.com/start.htm

Lindsay.

 

 

 

 

As far as I am aware they do not transmit.

I appreciate these are available and have been used to track migratory birds but as far as I am aware they are not generally available.

[Guest bigda]

 

The majority are quite simply not good enough for national racing mate,especially when it comes to 500 mile racing when the bird has to do it on its own.As to young bird racing,the ybn is the first time these birds have had to race within a convoy of birds racing into all areas of Scotland and not racing with big convoys into the one area.Young bird health also posses big problems that were not present 25 years ago,and remember the 98% sh..e rule which i agree with relating to 500 mile racing.

 

vincey the lanarshire use to have 2 staffords  for young birds distance was not the issue its the no come back we cant count for

[Guest]

 

vincey the lanarshire use to have 2 staffords  for young birds distance was not the issue its the no come back we cant count for

 

Danny its the young birds first experience of having to home in a convoy that is not flying into the one area.Some are just not capable.Especially when they go beyond the 200 mile mark.