Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Nobody is trying to score any points i just want to know who gave permission to let the doos go on saturday as i seen Budgie on the site and i dont need to tell you anything!!! When you the Race controller the only one that makes the decision to liberate the birds is him. Full stop. :( :( end of
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 When you the Race controller the only one that makes the decision to liberate the birds is him. Full stop. :( :( end of Yes so why not just say that then as he was watching the thread and was online at the time? : : :
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Something i'd like to know to put an end to something is who actually gave permission for the birds to be liberated on saturday morning? It might seem like a strange question but?? Back to my original question then...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Yes so why not just say that then as he was watching the thread and was online at the time? : : : Who in their right mind being a race controller for the Lanarkshire would come on this site after a disaster. Hiding to nothing
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Who in their right mind being a race controller for the Lanarkshire would come on this site after a disaster. Hiding to nothing dont think the question was aimed at you
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 dont think the question was aimed at you That the Dummy tits out of the pram again ;D ;D ;D ;D
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 That the Dummy tits out of the pram again ;D ;D ;D ;D Think you are a clown and that last post just proved it
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Well budgie just answered my question via pm
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Think you are a clown and that last post just proved it Rather that than be someone who is no more than a sh** stirrer and as per usual has his own agenda.
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Rather that than be someone who is no more than a sh** stirrer and as per usual has his own agenda. I asked a question and have got an answer if you want to make yourself look important batter in : :
Guest WINGS 04 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 ok jmo i think tha the birds racing up the east have only got a small chanel to get up to scotland or they have to get over the cheviots hills that are over 6000meters and then the pentlin hills up to 5000meters now if the birds are hit at the cheviots the will head west or back south this could be why they are birds in the west ps bigda when you stop sputting about what macalony dose then you can tell me that its not worth sitting waiting for my birds at the distenc
lanarkshire lad Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Initially, with the amount of birds missing, I assumed it was down to clashing.Now, I think it is a combination of things. The Wetherby, Wakefield, Selby etc area is reknowned for peregrine attacks ( remember the OB Wakefield, lots of birds injured,I myself had 5 return hawked ) With this in mind, I think maybe after getting struck by BOP the convoy has split into groups, heading in all directions. Clashing could have took part thereafter and this would account for alot of things.U must remember wakefield with the old birds was a strong south east wind which would have took the pigeons right up through bandit country.
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 ok jmo i think tha the birds racing up the east have only got a small chanel to get up to scotland or they have to get over the cheviots hills that are over 6000meters and then the pentlin hills up to 5000meters now if the birds are hit at the cheviots the will head west or back south this could be why they are birds in the west ps bigda when you stop sputting about what macalony dose then you can tell me that its not worth sitting waiting for my birds at the distenc i am only reminding the short memory-ed type who say wee mac get the first drop of the doos he has topped the fed again dose that make it easier to understand, and also to let the members know when in the lanarkshire fed we do things for the betterment of the lanarkshire fed no other and would not expect any other fed member trying to affect the out come as to what races we should be flying our young birds at in favor of another union
Guest stevie-b Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 jph what u mean i would have lost birds the week before i loss pigeons like everybody including u i know that my pigeons r healthy as i have them regulary tested and nobody trained there youngsters as hard as me and john duthie this year
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 jph what u mean i would have lost birds the week before i loss pigeons like everybody including u i know that my pigeons r healthy as i have them regulary tested and nobody trained there youngsters as hard as me and john duthie this yearim talking about the birds in the lanarshire fed . they had four ggod races so if there birds had been sick and not trained as you sujested they would have lost lots before would they not :-/ :-/ :-/
Guest stevie-b Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 10/12 on sat and 33 out of 41 the week before no sick doos here lol
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 some good points raised by andy which i agree basketing conveeners no doing there job and checking birds too many sick pigeons on lorrys to many so called fanciers sending doos back to quick after ybs to many fanciers no traing t5here birds enough and jumping them in these r the main cuolprits certainally no the controllers or the b.o.pyou said this is the reason for the losses and not bop well they would have lost loads every race if that was the reason :-/
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 10/12 on sat and 33 out of 41 the week before no sick doos here lol stevie 10 / 12 from wetherby with lanarshire fed on sat best returns ive heard from that race :-/
Guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 180 miles to where? it`ll be a training toss for solway. dont know what caused saturdays disaster but dont think it was clashing. who did they clash with and what would turn a convoy of 5000. i think this is 100% correct any north roaders that were north of all of us on sat would only have small convoys on as no body has the great no,s of birds any more are the london boys up this far allready :-/ and the last time i spoke to them they only had 1300 birds on why did that turn 5,000 birds with the wind at there back well at least a bit i dont think so i think they feds might have picked up some of the loose birds after the problem had hapened ive also had 2 reportd around the sunderland area is that the birds returning to the area they were liberated from?????
frank-123 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 not a time for falling out we should be pulling together and helping to get some birds back up the road we have a long winter to discuss the race as for andy eadie (budgie) a gentleman i feel sorry for to have such a terrible burden to carry but let me say this i have spoken to very well know and respected fanciers in lanarkshire both these men off there own back called every lib line north of wetherby and both can see a very very slim chance of a clash so please save a thought for andy eadie a doo man who lost his own doos and feels responsible for losing everyone's birds if he made a mistake then lets learn from it the most important thing is to try and get some of these birds back heard a story today of a man 70 years of age lost four winners two fed section winners left with two young birds his club mates are trying to talk him into staying on in the pigeon game he has flown the pigeons since he was a young lad would it not be great to get some birds back for him lets stick togerther and help don't fall out
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 i think this is 100% correct any north roaders that were north of all of us on sat would only have small convoys on as no body has the great no,s of birds any more are the london boys up this far allready :-/ and the last time i spoke to them they only had 1300 birds on why did that turn 5,000 birds with the wind at there back well at least a bit i dont think so i think they feds might have picked up some of the loose birds after the problem had hapened ive also had 2 reportd around the sunderland area is that the birds returning to the area they were liberated from?????was down in neton wamphray a few years back and saw peregrines attack a batch of a few 1000 birds coming up from lockerbie area, Poss Midland fed but not sure most o the convoy turned and headed south down to the solway direction. a s small amount headed north for home . Later the ybs seemed to regroup and came up again only to be attacked again with most tuning wrong way again and heading back down. if im not mistaken there were reports in homing world of batches of ybs flying up and down solway coast untill exhausted so that is what can scatter 5000 birds, like a shark in a shool of fish they go every where.
REDROCKET Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Ayrshire North Road do and I think they had a sticky race at the weekend to personally i dont think changing the saturday is an idea that will suit a lot of fanciers but this might be a good idea from novice and the solution to the clashing issue.
Guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 personally i dont think changing the saturday is an idea that will suit a lot of fanciers but this might be a good idea from novice and the solution to the clashing issue. will that not increase the chance of clashing with scottish feds racing north? if we believe that clashing was the prob on sat who had enough birds to turn over 5,000 birds we had lots of feds racing north on sat all around the same time, some going west, some going east but all comming north
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 what would 5,000 doos look like on a radar screen i wonder ;D then after the split ;D
alec guinness Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 said on this thread earlier i had doubts with regards the birds clashing and still think this way, definately not andy eadies fault, weather was good and birds had to race,problem started way back with the choice of programme,as stated 70ml jump and first time over the hump we were asking for trouble,this time last year on this site lanarkshire fanciers were complaining no distance flown too many youngsters left,crisp poke racing etc etc,yes the birds must be tested but a sensible approach and sensible distance increases more important,this week a rather pointless otterburn when maybe the birds should have been at ripon or thereabouts.RACE PROGRAMME 2010,THINKING CAPS ON. ;) ;) JMO.
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