SNFC AGM

[robbiedoo.]

 

You dont hear Brian Denney moaning about giving the South NFC lads 200 miles overfly..

 

with all due respect you will not hear the north guys moan about the channel races . its just the inland and surely you can see their point .

[robbiedoo.]

 

never say never mind geordie harris won the inland national into dunipace anythings possible

 

i always say a doo is like a woman you dont know whats inside their head anything is possible but the inland national highly unlikely . i for one will be entering into them all like they say you have got to be in it to win it .

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

with all due respect you will not hear the north guys moan about the channel races . its just the inland and surely you can see their point .

 

Mate i 100% see your problem... but how can this ever be resolved..?? Theres 150 mile roughly between first and last drop... this will never change...

 

Ive been watching with interest the talk of the inlands... and i can see and agree with points on both sides..

 

But the bottom line is they create a lot of interest, so clearly in this day and age in our sport it can only be a good thing.. Even for the most experienced National men, they still need somewhere to race their yearlings etc..

 

Ive thought a lot lately about the nats etc, and clearly the birdages have diminshed, but probably the % of fanciers to birds sent is still in par with the ratio of the 60s and 70s.. How can people expect 4/5 thousand birds at the Gold Cup when theres a third of the fanciers competing now as there was then..

 

I think we still have a great sport to compete in whether it be with the SNFC or SNRPC.. If we just all stopped bitching and moaning we may still make this sport great once again..

[robbiedoo.]

 

Mate i 100% see your problem... but how can this ever be resolved..?? Theres 150 mile roughly between first and last drop... this will never change...

 

Ive been watching with interest the talk of the inlands... and i can see and agree with points on both sides..

 

But the bottom line is they create a lot of interest, so clearly in this day and age in our sport it can only be a good thing.. Even for the most experienced National men, they still need somewhere to race their yearlings etc..

 

Ive thought a lot lately about the nats etc, and clearly the birdages have diminshed, but probably the % of fanciers to birds sent is still in par with the ratio of the 60s and 70s.. How can people expect 4/5 thousand birds at the Gold Cup when theres a third of the fanciers competing now as there was then..

 

I think we still have a great sport to compete in whether it be with the SNFC or SNRPC.. If we just all stopped bitching and moaning we may still make this sport great once again..

 

i could,nt agree more i would of loved to have flown in the olden days i love listening to the old team . i think its time for everybody to stop the bitching and enjoy our doos and lets make the nationals special regardless of where the race point is and regardless of your loft location just send your doos and enjoy the good times you get if you put the right effort into it .

 

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

i could,nt agree more i would of loved to have flown in the olden days i love listening to the old team . i think its time for everybody to stop the bitching and enjoy our doos and lets make the nationals special regardless of where the race point is and regardless of your loft location just send your doos and enjoy the good times you get if you put the right effort into it .

 

Exactly mate.. being apart of the Nationals is magical.. thats should be the pinnacle for everyone competing within the bounds of Scotland..

 

Theres already too much divide.. whether you be North, South.. East or West.. its a common goal we all have...

 

There has got to be ways out there to better the sport, but they'll never be found unless we all open our eyes to the bigger needs in the sport. Rather than wondering who has it toughtest or where a meeting should be held etc etc...

 

 

ps.. its toughest in the west..  ;D ;D

[robbiedoo.]

 

Exactly mate.. being apart of the Nationals is magical.. thats should be the pinnacle for everyone competing within the bounds of Scotland..

 

Theres already too much divide.. whether you be North, South.. East or West.. its a common goal we all have...

 

There has got to be ways out there to better the sport, but they'll never be found unless we all open our eyes to the bigger needs in the sport. Rather than wondering who has it toughtest or where a meeting should be held etc etc...

 

 

ps.. its toughest in the west..  ;D ;D

 

its only tougher in the west cause youse hivnae got the doos to do it . ;D ;D ;D ;D

[walterbmasson]

 

You dont hear Brian Denney moaning about giving the South NFC lads 200 miles overfly..

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles   ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest stb-]

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles   ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

DOES HE NOT GIVE THE SOUTH COAST THE 200MLS IN ALL RACES WALTER??

[walterbmasson]

 

i just wondered if u were putting entry 2 the inlands because 4 the last week u've done nothing but belittle the inland nationals despite fanciers from all over scotland sending excellent birdages to them and endorsing them in the true spirit of our sport and yet i see u use lesser distances with lesser birdages in ur advert, in recent years anyway 2 sell ur birds 1 other thing walter if cairnbulg is 500 miles from hastings (nearer 480 mile?) bourges might be 1500 mile by ur measuring

cod lips its me thats very confused ive won every thing that has to do with pigeons won every french sec being furthest flying loft each time 622mls to 723miles  won the sec by 6hrs twice 1st national 6 times in 1st 50 in open i cant even tell you how many times ive won the longest race 483 to 500 exter but you mention this year advert why i dont know i was runner up to fed averages best bird of the year 1st 2nd 7th club 7th 8th 17th fed  arniston 2,025 birds 133miles 4th club rotherham 8th fed 294miles 1,053 birds 1st 2nd 3rd 5th 8th club 8th 9th 12th 16thfed 353miles 556 birds 1st 2nd 3rd 5th 9th 10th club hastings  1st 4th 5th 11th 21st 24th fed 721 birds  1st 2nd 3rd club 8th sec ypres 511miles 0n the day yearling winning old bird average leicester open leicester yearling hastings open hastings yearling pigeon of the year 5 longest  - 3bird nom - 5 longest old-by 3 longest young  3 longest  2 longest oldest  in the avvert it says clocked 16 on the day from 500miles out of my whole team of 26 birds 20 to fed which i lost one 6 to ypres all home including 3 yearlings  [ by the way this is a small loft and theres not a year i dont take my clock to marking station i dont know your agro but dont bother i know what ive got and dont bother what other people win or do with there birds but if your in our fed put your money where your mouth is at any distance i am here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[JADE]

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles   ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

messac 2009 brian denny 430 miles. winner flying 222 miles. dont count tho cos its a micky mouse race

[Guest frank dooman]

 

DOES HE NOT GIVE THE SOUTH COAST THE 200MLS IN ALL RACES WALTER??

 

brian denny doesnt race untill hes over the chanel robert

[Guest stb-]

 

brian denny doesnt race untill hes over the chanel robert

 

is messac no over the channel,   what im saying to walter is he must always be 200mls further than the south coast fanciers no matter what race ;)

 

 

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles    ,messac 490 and its more than 200 he gives

[Chris Little]

The real race being Tarbes, Brian Denny & Dave Impett give the south coast fanciers 220 - 225 miles.

 

Yet to hear either of them complain about it   ;) ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles   ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

sory robert this was the post i was refering too, i dont like the inland races but we are in the minority now walter most like them so thats life we just need to get on with it use it for training if you want but its here to stay iam just concerned it doesnt get any worse yous passed a reasonable race prog for the distance man so maybe the ballance is returning

[walterbmasson]

 

messac 2009 brian denny 430 miles. winner flying 222 miles. dont count tho cos its a micky mouse race

  it looks very cock eyed to me  the only way to be a fair result is let sprint fly against sprint split the race into 2 sec 1 south of forth and 1north of forth  but theres one fraserburgh fancier thinks its hunkie dorie dont get me wrong there is some birds in aberdeen and right up here in inverallochy jhonny s on this site who has done very well and kevin elliott also on this site irvin buchan only a few to mention but what would the result have been if flying in too sections in fact i believe that would take more into this sport if getting a fair go at birds flying a more equal distance  but saying that if a fancier in fraserburgh is more happy winning a sec ticket at an inland race rather than the blue ribbon of this fed you dont win this fed twice on a trot whoever you are this is a very hard won to win :o

 

 

[JADE]

  it looks very cock eyed to me  the only way to be a fair result is let sprint fly against sprint split the race into 2 sec 1 south of forth and 1north of forth  but theres one fraserburgh fancier thinks its hunkie dorie dont get me wrong there is some birds in aberdeen and right up here in inverallochy jhonny s on this site who has done very well and kevin elliott also on this site irvin buchan only a few to mention but what would the result have been if flying in too sections in fact i believe that would take more into this sport if getting a fair go at birds flying a more equal distance  but saying that if a fancier in fraserburgh is more happy winning a sec ticket at an inland race rather than the blue ribbon of this fed you dont win this fed twice on a trot whoever you are this is a very hard won to win :o

 

 

i dont understand your logic. the open result would be the same whether there were two sections or twenty sections. there is no such thing as a fair result in national racing. we all fly different distances with wind favouring one area more than another. if there were two sections as you say would be better you would soon complain about the fife dundee and angus lads whacking you most of the time. finally i would rather win the section from eastbourne than top the fed but if i won the section i would top our fed as well. every fed is hard to win not just the north

[walterbmasson]

 

i dont understand your logic. the open result would be the same whether there were two sections or twenty sections. there is no such thing as a fair result in national racing. we all fly different distances with wind favouring one area more than another. if there were two sections as you say would be better you would soon complain about the fife dundee and angus lads whacking you most of the time. finally i would rather win the section from eastbourne than top the fed but if i won the section i would top our fed as well. every fed is hard to win not just the north

why cant you have too different sec in a race it happens a the time its fa are you comming fa you surly dina watch liberations let the 1st sec sprint or 1st sec distance go first it happens at broch all the time so the logic i speak is what is going on in liberations now also specialist clubs also lib from same lorry the only thing that is going to alter is the sprinters will have less birds to compete against and the longer birds will get more to gain being 1st long dist inland race cant you see it doesent come down to wind direction favouring any aera its just different types of birds by the way i am not flying in any of them as ive posted before [ if they are all happy the way it is fair enough ]good luck to all that does enter ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[BLACK W F]

brian denny dosent give them 200 off 485 miles   ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

exactly  my point

[Guest stb-]

 

exactly  my point

 

no he gives 225 of 490 :-/ :-/

[JADE]

why cant you have too different sec in a race it happens a the time its fa are you comming fa you surly dina watch liberations let the 1st sec sprint or 1st sec distance go first it happens at broch all the time so the logic i speak is what is going on in liberations now also specialist clubs also lib from same lorry the only thing that is going to alter is the sprinters will have less birds to compete against and the longer birds will get more to gain being 1st long dist inland race cant you see it doesent come down to wind direction favouring any aera its just different types of birds by the way i am not flying in any of them as ive posted before [ if they are all happy the way it is fair enough ]good luck to all that does enter ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

do you mean have separate liberations for north of the forth and south of the forth in inland races

[walterbmasson]

 

 

stb  does brian denny win  against   the 260mile sprinters as i really dont have a clue robert

[walterbmasson]

do you mean have separate liberations for north of the forth and south of the forth in inland races

 

why not  also why not combine north and south all they do in fraserburgh give the birds 15 min between libs a lot of fanciers on here will back this up this is happening all the time fact

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

Would have liked to have went to the AGM but cant remember being informed of when it was Strange as I am a full paying member

[Guest stb-]

 

stb  does brian denny win  against   the 260mile sprinters as i really dont have a clue robert

 

Walter think he would hold his own but thnk most of the winners would be in the south at that distance

[Guest frank dooman]

 

stb  does brian denny win  against   the 260mile sprinters as i really dont have a clue robert

 

yes most times