2Nd Day Returns

[Guest stb-]

gareth middleton is near rochdale which comes under the NORTH YORKSHIRE DALES check it out olso just north of there is the M62 corridor which goes right through to harrogate

Rochdale is in the Great Manchester County deffo not in yorkshire

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

gareth middleton is near rochdale which comes under the NORTH YORKSHIRE DALES check it out

Wrong

[geordie1234]

Talking to a fancier tonight who has a doo reported in oldham....

[Big Davie]

Hadn't at any time based the figures on my own returns, its based on the guys that have got 73/80, 53/58, 56/66, 43/60, 39/43, 21/24, 23/28, 36/44 and like i have already said in my last post there are a few fanciers that have unfortunately not reached the 50%.

Gareth

 

I've also been talking to a number of guys and IMO you're getting this wrong , I.E. A few have got decent returns including yourself, Delboy, and some others that I know of or have spoken too but , again IMO not a few but many, many, lofts are at approx 50% home or less and I will give you a few examples from well established lofts with guys who have a fair idea what they are doing and have been in the doo game most of their lives with a fair amount of success right out to France, these were the figures last night.

20/60, 30/71, 12/29, 17/35,11/21, 18/35, I will not name them here but can assure you these are accurate and I have also heard of worse returns than those I have quoted, and my own returns with the biggest team out where I hoped the race would set me up for the season, 68 / 134 just over half home with 66 missing the vast majority of which are yearlings, I am not having a dig at anyone here because I don't think blame can be levelled at anyone, however again in my IMO the returns from this race are far worse than what you are making out.

 

Talking to a fancier tonight who has a doo reported in oldham....

I also have one reported in Wolverhampton

 

Just

[HOMER49]

Hi

From Middelton reported dead in Barrow in Furnace

a 2 year old lib in SW wind and he goes into the wind

in the opposite direction

NO PRIZES FOR GUESSING WHY

Cheers

Homer 49

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Gareth

 

I've also been talking to a number of guys and IMO you're getting this wrong , I.E. A few have got decent returns including yourself, Delboy, and some others that I know of or have spoken too but , again IMO not a few but many, many, lofts are at approx 50% home or less and I will give you a few examples from well established lofts with guys who have a fair idea what they are doing and have been in the doo game most of their lives with a fair amount of success right out to France, these were the figures last night.

20/60, 30/71, 12/29, 17/35,11/21, 18/35, I will not name them here but can assure you these are accurate and I have also heard of worse returns than those I have quoted, and my own returns with the biggest team out where I hoped the race would set me up for the season, 68 / 134 just over half home with 66 missing the vast majority of which are yearlings, I am not having a dig at anyone here because I don't think blame can be levelled at anyone, however again in my IMO the returns from this race are far worse than what you are making out.

 

 

I also have one reported in Wolverhampton

Based my figures on coversations I had with 12 club secretarys yesterday when arranging pick up times for the coming races, though can't argue with your figures. I can only hope that your wrong. Sorry to hear your losses are so bad.

Had my first one back today since Saturday, still 9 short myself, though I have had one reported in Blackburn, club mate has one reported in Wales, have heard of others reported in Doncaster and Workington.

[Delboy]

Can I say something about the numerous folk blaming the losses on yearlings etc. not being experienced enough.The whole of my team were yearlings, lightly raced 2 year olds latebreds or latebreds and my returns were 39/43.

[William Reid]

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[Guest stb-]

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part of the blame billy and dosent help also birds not quite up to the task in hand aswell i would say especially on a sticky day m8

[Delboy]

Exactly Billy, Percy rules, guys with good returns have just been *expletive removed* lucky imo.

[Guest stb-]

Exactly Billy, Percy rules, guys with good returns have just been *expletive removed* lucky imo.

a think a lot has to be said if you have your doos in the batch that gets chased and head of in the right direction and not the opposite way but you knowe yourself the doos need to be up for it to return after a strike or 20 on route if not they wont make on home

[William Reid]

part of the blame billy and dosent help also birds not quite up to the task in hand aswell i would say especially on a sticky day m8

expletive remove Rab 170mls for a homing pigeon is .*expletive removed* all . As you fine well know guys would be sending birds to this race as a training toss .

[Guest stb-]

expletive remove Rab 170mls for a homing pigeon is .*expletive removed* all . As you fine well know guys would be sending birds to this race as a training toss .

thats all right billy if they only fly 170 miles m8 but if threy get chased a 170 in the opposite direction first thats 340 to cover not a lot would be up for that yous have hardly been over a 100 miles mind

[Delboy]

I got a latebred on Sunday, he mustve flown 500 miles, not an ounce on the poor wee .*expletive removed*.Perfect for Buckingham lol

[mill house]

part of the blame billy and dosent help also birds not quite up to the task in hand aswell i would say especially on a sticky day m8

a sticky day the birds were up in a s/w wind the leading birds doing 1500 plus even half fit birds should get home in days like that .the hawks are the major problem causing carnage

[Guest stb-]

a sticky day the birds were up in a s/w wind the leading birds doing 1500 plus even half fit birds should get home in days like that .the hawks are the major problem causing carnage

aye yer right if they go in the right direction but if they get hunted south no so easy m8

[Delboy]

aye yer right if they go in the right direction but if they get hunted south no so easy m8

 

I think yer right Rab, probably the mega fit birds had a better chance in getting home.

[Big Davie]

part of the blame billy and dosent help also birds not quite up to the task in hand aswell i would say especially on a sticky day m8

Rab, that's one of the main points, it wasn't a sticky day and should have been a skoosh case at that distance with fair weather and a S/W wind, I have five home from Middleton with BOP injuries, I know another guy with four, mirror that across all the lofts in the Fed and have a guess at the amount of strikes the convoy could have taken, I know the bassas are everywhere but for me it's the common denominator.

[Guest stb-]

Rab, that's one of the main points, it wasn't a sticky day and should have been a skoosh case at that distance with fair weather and a S/W wind, I have five home from Middleton with BOP injuries, I know another guy with four, mirror that across all the lofts in the Fed and have a guess at the amount of strikes the convoy could have taken, I know the bassas are everywhere but for me it's the common denominator.

when i say sticky i didint mean with the weather i meant with unknown cause but yes it would have 99% been down to percy strikes thats for sure , takes brave doos to run the gauntlet back up through the hills at the shap etc after a few skelps davy and the birds need to be 110% fit to make home after that ordeal

[William Reid]

Post #109 Rab .

Any healthy homing pigeon will return from this short distance IMO Rab . Maybe if the weather is bad would take it a few hours longer . But add B.O.P. To the equation and it's fcking mayhem have seen it myself . Because at one time I used to train a lot of local pigeons .

[Guest stb-]

Rab, that's one of the main points, it wasn't a sticky day and should have been a skoosh case at that distance with fair weather and a S/W wind, I have five home from Middleton with BOP injuries, I know another guy with four, mirror that across all the lofts in the Fed and have a guess at the amount of strikes the convoy could have taken, I know the bassas are everywhere but for me it's the common denominator.

I dont know about the fair weather Davie we were racing from wetherby on sat and libbed 7,15 aswell and every one of my birds from 1st to last were like drount rats this is my 2nd bird in the clock and my 5th birds there wattles are red and they dont get that with a light shower thats hours flying in the rain so there was a lot of rain somwhere

[geordie1234]

Doo racing eh? Never felt so low as I did on Saturday night just fkn takes the wind right out yer sails...

 

Will need to see how the doos progress over the week to see what can go this Sat bt there will be a few still sore so rest more important at the moment

[Guest stb-]

Doo racing eh? Never felt so low as I did on Saturday night just fkn takes the wind right out yer sails...

 

Will need to see how the doos progress over the week to see what can go this Sat bt there will be a few still sore so rest more important at the moment

mines are fine now george they look bad for a few hours when they been through lot of rain but were out tonight enjoying the thunder and lightning and monsoon give the tired ones a wee blaw for the next week rest as good as training

[geordie1234]

mines are fine now george they look bad for a few hours when they been through lot of rain but were out tonight enjoying the thunder and lightning and monsoon give the tired ones a wee blaw for the next week rest as good as training

Mines look fine aswell but will see how they come on.... the ones I got on Sunday had nothing on them and will be sore

 

They doos I had on Saturday are fine

[Guest stb-]

Mines look fine aswell but will see how they come on.... the ones I got on Sunday had nothing on them and will be sore

 

They doos I had on Saturday are fine

Aye give the sunday yins a wee blaw