Garlic Oil

[greenlands]

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-3rd-april/product-detail/ps/p/infused-rapeseed-oil/

[Smithy1]

Bargain at that price, thanks.

[hawked again]

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-3rd-april/product-detail/ps/p/infused-rapeseed-oil/

You can get peanut oil as cheep from Mr Tesco. There was a thread on here some time ago about the down side of rapeseed.

[philg50]

Why garlic oil,give them cloves of garlic in drinker works grand.

[Guest chad3646]

beware with rapeseed oil, it goes rancid quick

[just ask me]

crushed garlic in the drinker a lot of good properties of garlic dont get released unless crushed

[greenlands]

crushed garlic in the drinker a lot of good properties of garlic dont get released unless crushed

Garlic should be crushed in the water,allicin is lost when it comes into contact with air.

[just ask me]

Garlic should be crushed in the water,allicin is lost when it comes into contact with air.

 

 

allicin is only produced when its crushed you are correct that it losses its effects when released that's why it should be given fresh

[philg50]

I take garlic cut it up ,put it in large bottle add water this can sit for days sealed,make up a few bottles at a time and put some in drinker every day ,are you lads saying this is wrong???

[greenlands]

I take garlic cut it up ,put it in large bottle add water this can sit for days sealed,make up a few bottles at a time and put some in drinker every day ,are you lads saying this is wrong???

 

I don't think there are any rights or wrongs in pigeon racing,whatever works for one might not for another,however I did read some time ago that allicin is lost as soon as it contacts the atmosphere,when I was a regular user of garlic I had a gallon measure and the garlic was crushed under the water.Am I right,I'll leave that for you to decide.

 

Lindsay

 

beware with rapeseed oil, it goes rancid quick

That's one of the reasons I stopped using CLO and started to use Scotts Emulsion,then again we don't get hot weather like we used to.

[peter pandy]

As one who has grown garlic I have often wondered where the notion of allicin dissapearing into thin air when crushed came from so I will let you into a secret. Allicin is the smell from garlic nothing more nothing less.

What I do when I harvest my garlic is peel all the cloves and dump them in a blender with a little water and blend into a puree. When pureed I fill ice cube trays wrap in cling film and put them in the freezer taking them out when frozen and popped into freezer bags to be used indiidually when required. Scottish Garlic from The Really Garlicky Company, Nairn. is the best for growing in Scotia and has large cloves with massive amounts of flavour. Its easily grown in plant troughs filled with Compost and only requires moderate feeding after planting in October. Believe me home grown is best by a mile..

[greenlands]

So what your are basically saying Peter smelling it does you good ?

I was lead to believe it was the sulphur make up of garlic and I think I'll stick with that.

[peter pandy]

"Allicin Facts" is worth a read Lindsay as it has been known for its benefits ?, for thousands of years however Allicin was only discovered last century.

[just ask me]

As one who has grown garlic I have often wondered where the notion of allicin dissapearing into thin air when crushed came from so I will let you into a secret. Allicin is the smell from garlic nothing more nothing less.

What I do when I harvest my garlic is peel all the cloves and dump them in a blender with a little water and blend into a puree. When pureed I fill ice cube trays wrap in cling film and put them in the freezer taking them out when frozen and popped into freezer bags to be used indiidually when required. Scottish Garlic from The Really Garlicky Company, Nairn. is the best for growing in Scotia and has large cloves with massive amounts of flavour. Its easily grown in plant troughs filled with Compost and only requires moderate feeding after planting in October. Believe me home grown is best by a mile..

 

 

peter ive never grown garlic but any readings ive done as i like to know what im giving my birds says different allicin if i remember right the smell is the plants defence but allicin has many great effects on blood circulation and is reported to have antioxidant and anti microbial effects which can only be a good thing

 

even i think the Australasian vet says garlic should be given fresh due to the loss of these properties

[Guest chad3646]

walk through any woods where there is wild garlic growing and you can smell it a mile away

 

well maybe no a mile away lol

[peter pandy]

OK, Can anyone inform us the time it takes to lose properties in garlic when crushed.?? Are we talking seconds, minutes or hours even days. What I do know is with my method of crushing and freezing when I decide to put a cube in the drinker their is down on the floor within 24 hours. P.S. and it stinks to high heaven.

[just ask me]

OK, Can anyone inform us the time it takes to lose properties in garlic when crushed.?? Are we talking seconds, minutes or hours even days. What I do know is with my method of crushing and freezing when I decide to put a cube in the drinker their is down on the floor within 24 hours. P.S. and it stinks to high heaven.

 

 

i would imagine freezing it would not cause much harm but im not sure intresting though

[Wiley]

The question for you guys would be this as Peter stated "there is down on the floor within 24 hours". Now is their down dropping rapidly because the garlic is improving their health and condition in 24 hours, I'd be inclined to say no. The down would be falling because the birds do not like the taste of what is in the drinker. Do a test take water away from your birds for 24 hours the findings would be the same an abundance of down fall. I am a fan of garlic btw and a regular user

[greenlands]

So true that Ryan,a reduction in water intake will increase the down fall.This season I have decided that the birds only get fresh water anything the require will be put on their food.

Here a clip from an article I've been reading.

 

"The green, dry "folds" in the center of the garlic clove are especially pungent. The sulfur compound allicin, produced by crushing or chewing fresh garlic, produces other sulfur compounds: ajoene, allyl polysulfides, and vinyldithiins.[1] Aged garlic lacks allicin, but may have some activity due to the presence of S-allylcysteine.

 

In a rat study allicin was found to be an activator of TRPA1. The neurons released neurotransmitters in the spinal cord to generate pain signals and released neuropeptides at the site of sensory nerve activation, resulting in vasodilation, as well as inflammation.[95] Allicin is released only by crushing or chewing raw garlic and cannot be formed from cooked garlic."

[Wiley]

So true that Ryan,a reduction in water intake will increase the down fall.This season I have decided that the birds only get fresh water anything the require will be put on their food.

 

A very wise move mate especially in the racing season