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If you were to only feed peas beans and maize what percentage of each would you use

years ago when i was into all this percentage rubbish the aim was to have your protein content no higher than 15 or 16 percent max for racing 19 to 20 percent for rearing yb the rest made up of carbohydrates which i did till i found out guys were knocking the s t out me feeding 100per beans or big floury dog tooth maize and if i remember correctly tic beans are 26 per protien maple peas 24 percent go figure to me feeding barley is like kids with potatoes they wont eat them if they know the ice cream is coming but give them nothing for a day and then give them potatoes and theyll eat the lot any bird that does not eat barley is being over fed and not hungry imo but every one to there own because someone sits in a lab and works out what percentages of what is in a type of grain does not make them an expert on rearing and winning with livestock a good stockman can see what is working for his birds and the type of races he wants to win if it was as simple as percentage of grain we would all just buy the ready made up balanced diet which just happens to be the most expensive and we would all win

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thank you Mr Boswell for the reply, I was only asking as back in the 60/70s when I had birds I used to feed them a peas bean maize mix and odd bits of (black rape there treat maybe once a month or so) and was thinking of going back to that mix but wasn't sure on ratio as I would buy seperate bags of each

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think if you sort the protein the rest takes care of its self more or less buster add what you fancy but like i say when i saw what some guys were feeding and winning on i now feed by results i get when feeding certain grains and so far ive found adding barley to any mix works fine for me i think the amount you feed no matter what it is is more inportant imo

 

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1/3 Beans, 1/3 Peas, 1/3 Whole Maize and you will find you are giving your birds a diet that will give them the stamina to keep them going when others have dropped out.

Your young bird losses will not be as great either.

Feeding in my opinion has caused the losses we are experiencing due to a lack of protein in the diet with the brainwashing over the years to move onto continental diets.

Their was nothing wrong with our feeding of the 60/70s nor did we have the multitude of problems we experience now such as loose droppings where you buy a bottle of crap to stiffen them up. The late Alf Baker fed 60% Maples 40% Maize but certain fanciers on the Forum denigrate past great fanciers as not being able to win in this modern age with new feeding methods !! POPPYCOCK. The top fanciers of old would still win out of turn against the modern racing techniques such as Widowhood, Roundabout or any other system because on Natural they had the ABILITY to observe and recognise when a bird was keen on a certain nest condition unlike the modern fancier who sends a big team with no motivation other than to fly home and win especially to a good loft location. Early breeding is against the Laws of Nature and all racing systems other than the natural system is un-natural and you wonder where and why the losses are coming from. Racing pigeons are still domesticated wild birds that we wish to conform and naturalise to our ways of management and should be treated so.

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Wish i could get protien peas and beans to buy here, i can get maize I would feed this before any of those so called formulated mixtures ,peas beans maize touch of barley perfect,I have a breeder mix just now nothing but small seed and a maple or two (rubbish).

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1/3 Beans, 1/3 Peas, 1/3 Whole Maize and you will find you are giving your birds a diet that will give them the stamina to keep them going when others have dropped out.

Your young bird losses will not be as great either.

Feeding in my opinion has caused the losses we are experiencing due to a lack of protein in the diet with the brainwashing over the years to move onto continental diets.

Their was nothing wrong with our feeding of the 60/70s nor did we have the multitude of problems we experience now such as loose droppings where you buy a bottle of crap to stiffen them up. The late Alf Baker fed 60% Maples 40% Maize but certain fanciers on the Forum denigrate past great fanciers as not being able to win in this modern age with new feeding methods !! POPPYCOCK. The top fanciers of old would still win out of turn against the modern racing techniques such as Widowhood, Roundabout or any other system because on Natural they had the ABILITY to observe and recognise when a bird was keen on a certain nest condition unlike the modern fancier who sends a big team with no motivation other than to fly home and win especially to a good loft location. Early breeding is against the Laws of Nature and all racing systems other than the natural system is un-natural and you wonder where and why the losses are coming from. Racing pigeons are still domesticated wild birds that we wish to conform and naturalise to our ways of management and should be treated so.

like your post Peter , don't agree with all ,yet understand your view fully :emoticon-0137-clapping:

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1/3 Beans, 1/3 Peas, 1/3 Whole Maize and you will find you are giving your birds a diet that will give them the stamina to keep them going when others have dropped out.

Your young bird losses will not be as great either.

Feeding in my opinion has caused the losses we are experiencing due to a lack of protein in the diet with the brainwashing over the years to move onto continental diets.

Their was nothing wrong with our feeding of the 60/70s nor did we have the multitude of problems we experience now such as loose droppings where you buy a bottle of crap to stiffen them up. The late Alf Baker fed 60% Maples 40% Maize but certain fanciers on the Forum denigrate past great fanciers as not being able to win in this modern age with new feeding methods !! POPPYCOCK. The top fanciers of old would still win out of turn against the modern racing techniques such as Widowhood, Roundabout or any other system because on Natural they had the ABILITY to observe and recognise when a bird was keen on a certain nest condition unlike the modern fancier who sends a big team with no motivation other than to fly home and win especially to a good loft location. Early breeding is against the Laws of Nature and all racing systems other than the natural system is un-natural and you wonder where and why the losses are coming from. Racing pigeons are still domesticated wild birds that we wish to conform and naturalise to our ways of management and should be treated so.

Thank you for the reply, and yes that is what I want to do and go back to good old feeding methods,

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