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First class programme and about time our birds were racing from south to west,its near enough true south to north (NEAR enough im saying)so keep yer hair on,already the moaning has started,is this because Lanarkshire have their programme out first?while others fk aboot making a mountain oot a molehill,well done LPF great to see MEN in action.

No i am not a member of L/SHIRE,wish i was.
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To be fair I was under the impression that we were looking at a combine race/races to be honest with the way Ayrshire is talking about convoy fees joint convoying would not be much of a difference, however if there was combined races then would most certianly be more of an interest in Ayrshire, in regards to your race programm well done on getting this all done and dust early Ayrshire won't vote on one until the Egm in January I think and chance are that some won't want to go west due to overfly they get from the east

 

I'm wondering how you came about that impression??

 

To be honest I thought all the Feds that were mentioned would of had an input into the program or the races that were to be competed in but looks like Lanarkshires ruling the roost and that will put guys off straight away however I hope it works as its the way forward over this neck of the woods atb

 

I'm also wondering where you got that impression from Ricky??

 

Our race program meeting has been held in October since i was in my pram.

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Not really!!! If all the Feds concerned except Lanarkshire go east, then joint convoying is still a goer. If it is an even split, 3 and 3, then it is still a goer for two different lots.

John has started the ball rolling and I believe will facilitate the move towards joint convoying, but he is intelligent enough to realise that there is a lot of movement required before ANY form of amalgamation could occur.

 

Well said Andy, you appear to be one member who has actually took time to read and digest the Relevant posts on this topic.emoticon-0157-sun.gif

 

Before anyone says it, no we don't have a mutual admiration society going.

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I have never met you John, but I feel it is about time someone took the lead in this sport and made moves to sort it. You, along with the likes of Stuart Mullen, have done so for fanciers in the West.

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yous raced down the east last year walter with old birds but now you have chnged to the west side with new racepoints most of the other feds who might be part of the amal race east so i cant see them jumping to the west just cause lanarshire has done it . I thought the amal would have been good thing but didnt exspect the change to the west this time

i prefer the west rout rab i had more birds lost and hawked in newark and leicester than i did racing the full season the year before down the west the hawk situ in the east is as bad if not worse than the west but much less clashing but i would say our program is down the middle not west but every one to there own m8

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I have never met you John, but I feel it is about time someone took the lead in this sport and made moves to sort it. You, along with the likes of Stuart Mullen, have done so for fanciers in the West.

 

Thanks for your encouragement Andy. I work with people all day long from many different backgrounds who actually Fear change, it is a Very Natural emotion to the unknown.

Fanciers are no different to others, so when the idea of change is put to us we agree that its for the benefit of all, however when we face imminent changes we freeze and become fearful of what May be ahead.

Strange thing the Human mind, but what usually transpires out of change is something better, then we ask ourselves why we were so fearful in the first place. I do hope we can get this idea (change) up and running as i truly believe it WILL be better for everyone concerned in the long run. atvb John.

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Not really!!! If all the Feds concerned except Lanarkshire go east, then joint convoying is still a goer. If it is an even split, 3 and 3, then it is still a goer for two different lots.

John has started the ball rolling and I believe will facilitate the move towards joint convoying, but he is intelligent enough to realise that there is a lot of movement required before ANY form of amalgamation could occur.

i would race west everytime Andy,joint liberation from appleby onwards which can be a 3 to 4 hour race or more for ayrshire,then joint convoying from uttoxeter onwards or when birdage dictated,,is there movement in lanarkshire programme or is that it?

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I'm wondering how you came about that impression??

 

 

 

I'm also wondering where you got that impression from Ricky??

 

Our race program meeting has been held in October since i was in my pram.

John I was under the impression all this talk about going together and speaking to officials of the relevant Feds the races that were to be combined would of been a joint decision but I've obviously picked it up wrong personally I like the program yous have decided and would like to be racing along with yous as this is th route for west sided Feds atb for th coming season

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John I was under the impression all this talk about going together and speaking to officials of the relevant Feds the races that were to be combined would of been a joint decision but I've obviously picked it up wrong personally I like the program yous have decided and would like to be racing along with yous as this is th route for west sided Feds atb for th coming season

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i would race west everytime Andy,joint liberation from appleby onwards which can be a 3 to 4 hour race or more for ayrshire,then joint convoying from uttoxeter onwards or when birdage dictated,,is there movement in lanarkshire programme or is that it?

 

I don't know if they have room for movement, but since they voted for the joint convoying, you would expect there must be. Joint convoying, never mind amalgamation, will not work without come and go from all parties.

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I don't know if they have room for movement, but since they voted for the joint convoying, you would expect there must be. Joint convoying, never mind amalgamation, will not work without come and go from all parties.

Well the national doesn't come and go and you have to go with them so what's the difference?

 

Lanarkshire will go this programme if you would like an alternative to going with the national than here it is?

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I don't know if they have room for movement, but since they voted for the joint convoying, you would expect there must be. Joint convoying, never mind amalgamation, will not work without come and go from all parties.

but when youre the biggest fed in scotland Andy,do you really think joint convoying means we will go with you or do you want to come with us?all feds being mentioned setting a suitable programme for them,and then officials meeting to go through them and coming up with a suitable programme for all going down the west side but some are quite happy staying east.

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It is like a lot of other things people do not like change but you will never know until you try it,the ball is in motion let us see where it takes us too many Feds on the East, North and South,The route looks like a more direct fly into the West

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expletive remove they have mad a race programme, every fed will make a race programme and then all officals will sort out where they are going and when they are joining up?

 

PS I like the look of that programme if Glasgow were to join up!

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expletive remove they have mad a race programme, every fed will make a race programme and then all officals will sort out where they are going and when they are joining up?

 

PS I like the look of that programme if Glasgow were to join up!

 

Great idea Glasgow to join up as we did in the 90s and the early part of the millennium years,don't see it happening though! :partick-thistle-Crest:

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I think this would benefit the Ayrshire boys really well...it's no secret it was tough going for them with some very sore races

 

George I also think it would be a decent programme for us in Ayrshire , my gripe is that if joint convoying is a to be considered then ALL feds involved should have a say in where we go not just told this is the programme take it or leave it.

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That's the thing though it isn't joint convoying it's Lanarkshire's race programme Lanarkshire convoying and if you want to come along for better racing youz are more than welcome...that is it in a nut shell nothing more nothing less... we are good to go ourselves but the like's of Mr Quinn have noticed there is an opportunity to help us and guys like yourself round about us in better racing

 

 

fast forward 3 years if it is working Amal's and the like should be discussed

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expletive remove they have mad a race programme, every fed will make a race programme and then all officals will sort out where they are going and when they are joining up?

 

PS I like the look of that programme if Glasgow were to join up!

 

 

andy its not that long ago when we had the hassle of starting new feds etc just to get away from racing the west with the midland why would we want to go back down there after all the beastings we had on the west route

 

Great idea Glasgow to join up as we did in the 90s and the early part of the millennium years,don't see it happening though! :partick-thistle-Crest:

John i thought you said the west route wiped you guys out too with the midland . Why would you want to go there again now .

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