sapper756 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 As we approached the end of the young bird season, my federation raced on a Sunday (due to weather) how ever, from feed back, these 2 races were the best for fanciers getting a high percentage of birds sent, return on the day. What are Basics members views on Sunday racing?What are the pros and cons of Sunday racing? thank you in advance for your views
geordie1234 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 What about north road feds going on the Saturday and South roaders the Sunday...should help with the clashing....too much traffic on a Saturday imo
KMCK Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 Ayrshire went Friday A few weeks back and got a great race by all accounts, To me there should be a bit of flexibility that allows the race controller to pick a day that is more suitable for good racing weather wise and also with clashing. JMO
sapper756 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Posted September 10, 2013 What about north road feds going on the Saturday and South roaders the Sunday...should help with the clashing....too much traffic on a Saturday imo this certainly crossed my mind also George we continue to blame BOP for mass losses, which i do believe have a great bearing on losses, but is clashing having a greater bearing on losses?
yeboah Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 Ayrshire went Friday A few weeks back and got a great race by all accounts, To me there should be a bit of flexibility that allows the race controller to pick a day that is more suitable for good racing weather wise and also with clashing. JMO Good Post .
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overfly
geordie1234 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overfly
IanO Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overfly Quite Correct M8
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 In my opinion if we dont try it how will we know if it will work or not certainly cant be any worse than what we are experiancing down the east side with the losses year after year so come on lads give it a thought go down for one season next year and analize the returns at end of season as said cant be any worse could be better we wont know unless we try as we cant keep going on with the losses or the game is finished
flying fifer Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 In my opinion if we dont try it how will we know if it will work or not certainly cant be any worse than what we are experiancing down the east side with the losses year after year so come on lads give it a thought go down for one season next year and analize the returns at end of season as said cant be any worse could be better we wont know unless we try as we cant keep going on with the losses or the game is finished Don't think it's the sort of radical move we can try for 1 season only. Youngsters roaded down the East side and old birds that have raced the same route for 2,3,4 years(if they survive that long) won't show benifits (if any) in a season. IMO there are other things that we can try before changing routes e.g. North road Sat and South road Sun, but who changes??????????
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 In general Sunday racing is fine,the only problem as I see it is if there is a holdover as a lot of fanciers will be working on the Monday,ok so a lot of fanciers have ETS but for me the sport is being at home to watch the birds arrive.
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 midlothian went west 2 year ago with youngbirds and losses were no where near what we were loseing down east side but got changed because of the overfly brigade came out in force at agm and over turned by one vote to go back east if we dont try we will never know changing to sunday racing wont work as the weather dictates the race day best option as I see it scottish feds down west route english the east route no clashing
Guest Hey Presto Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overflywell said pal
gulkie Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 In my opinion if we dont try it how will we know if it will work or not certainly cant be any worse than what we are experiancing down the east side with the losses year after year so come on lads give it a thought go down for one season next year and analize the returns at end of season as said cant be any worse could be better we wont know unless we try as we cant keep going on with the losses or the game is finishedI agree with most of what u say but I think we have to commit to more than 1 seasonAnd allow our birds to get used to a certain route .I also agree that it would help theBirds if north road birds went sat and south road birds went sun or vice versa we all Know we need change .
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 If you commit to sunday racing then what happens if you get a good forcast for a saturday but crap for a sunday do you then bring your basketing forward and go for the saturday then you are back to the same situation as at present scottish and english on same day to me the best option is we all change back to the west route then you have your choice if forcast is bad to race on a saturday or a sundayjust look at the birdages at the weekend midlothian 400+ pentland 300+ east of scotland/scottish border 200+ fife 300+ dundee/angus 200+ central/north west 400+ less than 2000 birds with all these feds does that not tell you something now is the time for change for the sake of scottish pigeon raceing or it is finished within 5 years at this rate as fanciers are getting fed up with the losses and are just going to call it a day WE HAVE TO CHANGE
robbiedoo. Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overfly True it's crazy how a bit of overfly goes before line of flight to some fanciers
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 down the east route its not a race controller that you have to be its a air traffic controller
We man Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 down the east route its not a race controller that you have to be its a air traffic controller Time we stopped fkn about and every fed in Scotland go up together,and for the fearties if you cant stand the heat get to fk out the kitchen.
Guest chad3646 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 In general Sunday racing is fine,the only problem as I see it is if there is a holdover as a lot of fanciers will be working on the Monday,ok so a lot of fanciers have ETS but for me the sport is being at home to watch the birds arrive. a lot of church goers would not except the sunday racing lol
maverick Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 all scottish feds back down the old traditional route would avoid clashing with english feds but sadly fanciers wont change for fear of losing there advantage with overfly what a load of rubbish blaming overfly for the route chosen was it not bad losses on the old route that made fanciers choose to change
tyson Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 and what do you think is happening down the east route every year losses losses and yes overfly has a big part to play in race routes
William Reid Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 midlothian went west 2 year ago with youngbirds and losses were no where near what we were loseing down east side but got changed because of the overfly brigade came out in force at agm and over turned by one vote to go back east if we dont try we will never know changing to sunday racing wont work as the weather dictates the race day best option as I see it scottish feds down west route english the east route no clashing. :emoticon-0137-clapping:
Guest stb- Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 a lot of church goers would not except the sunday racing lolis that right Father Jim
Guest chad3646 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 is that right Father Jim bless you my son :emoticon-0140-rofl:
maverick Posted September 11, 2013 Report Posted September 11, 2013 and what do you think is happening down the east route every year losses losses and yes overfly has a big part to play in race routes So do you realy think going back down the west will help or are you looking for the overfly Overfly it is only time and distance if the bird flys further it is entitled to the time the fastest bird on the day wins the race
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