flying fifer Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Returns are horrendous, me personally have 1/9 and will be well up the result timing at 08:30 on 2nd morning. Trying to dissect the race and reasons behind such returns, without stating the obvious HEAT. Pigeons to fly competitively at 500+ miles are not in great abundance and I'm sure that some birds were sent not "fit" for the task in hand. Birds that have previously scored and performed, many will have sensibly took cover and will in the course of time work home provided that they survive the BOP's. In the cold light of day from my 9 sent, possibly 5 were up to the task the other 4 were sent "to earn a box for next year". So on my figures alone can it be said that possibly as many as 40% of the birds sent to the race were sent on a wing and a prayer. This might sound a bit radical but IMHO many times birds are put in the basket and are not up to the task. I know and appreciate the work and dedication that is put in by all top fanciers and that is why in most National races the same names can be pencilled in year in year out, in all sections. The weather conditions have been a major contributary factor in this race and many very good birds that have done the course are missing but in the future I will be much more selective when going to races of 500+ miles. Food for thought eh!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Rab i tossed 18 yb's from Law yesterday approx 5 mls to my loft at 4.10 seen percy as we went back over the garrion bridge and the result was no yb's on the shift and only 3 today expletive remove they can almost see the loft from where i tossed them ready to give up i think first toss yesterday from kilncadzow got them back in ones and twos after about an hour and half and up till now am waiting on 11 and these young birds were touring for up to an hour and a half every night ,got nothing to do with weather its PERCY and personally am sick ofbreeding pigeons to feed this VERMIN of the sky :emoticon-0179-headbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestForever74 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 first toss yesterday from kilncadzow got them back in ones and twos after about an hour and half and up till now am waiting on 11 and these young birds were touring for up to an hour and a half every night ,got nothing to do with weather its PERCY and personally am sick ofbreeding pigeons to feed this VERMIN of the sky :emoticon-0179-headbang: Had a similar toss ourselves last night. Got a couple of singles then a batch of 10 then back to singles for the rest of the night with the last one showing up this morning so I deffo think it was a percy strike that split them. Getting them all home is a plus and especially the singles, they are well versed in life away from the loft now. Hopefully tomoz training is no as stressful for us or the young birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Returns are horrendous, me personally have 1/9 and will be well up the result timing at 08:30 on 2nd morning. Trying to dissect the race and reasons behind such returns, without stating the obvious HEAT. Pigeons to fly competitively at 500+ miles are not in great abundance and I'm sure that some birds were sent not "fit" for the task in hand. Birds that have previously scored and performed, many will have sensibly took cover and will in the course of time work home provided that they survive the BOP's. In the cold light of day from my 9 sent, possibly 5 were up to the task the other 4 were sent "to earn a box for next year". So on my figures alone can it be said that possibly as many as 40% of the birds sent to the race were sent on a wing and a prayer. This might sound a bit radical but IMHO many times birds are put in the basket and are not up to the task. I know and appreciate the work and dedication that is put in by all top fanciers and that is why in most National races the same names can be pencilled in year in year out, in all sections. The weather conditions have been a major contributary factor in this race and many very good birds that have done the course are missing but in the future I will be much more selective when going to races of 500+ miles. Food for thought eh!!!!!! Disagree with this part m8, the last national has birds entered that have been training and racing all year, in fact most in the convoy wouldve had an national already this year.So, I reckon 90% were fit and prepared for the job in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 i believe most of the national doos that make it home are out every single day of the year for a start, and then most hens sitting nest condition maybe even first nest of the year, never tossed, but sent to a few races maybe 3 max 100 mile a 150 mile and a 250 mile before its main race. and most nat men only play about with 12 doos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue bar Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 we have 1/4 the birds missing have flown well for us a 5 year old been 3 times to clermont i expect him to turn up yet and a 3 year old that got on the clermont result last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hino Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Forgot to mention Percy Michael , dehydrated pigeons for Percy. ,like taking sweeties off a wean .percy got my one i sent he was found dead on a beach in liverpool on sat morning.by a man walking his dog.he was on his back with the breast gone all that way for that to happen not far from home gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 percy got my one i sent he was found dead on a beach in liverpool on sat morning.by a man walking his dog.he was on his back with the breast gone all that way for that to happen not far from home guttedTerrible to hear this ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 the cock i call son of rambo landed 6 50 so 7 from 17 he was hawked keep coming please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim45 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just got my pigeon t hat was 1st section f17open alencon back at 6oclock tonight half a tail missing buy god glad shes home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbill Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just got my pigeon t hat was 1st section f17open back at 6oclock tonight half a tail missing buy god glad shes homeGood to see it made it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moscow master Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just got my pigeon t hat was 1st section f17open alencon back at 6oclock tonight half a tail missing buy god glad shes homeI bet you felt like you won it when you seen her its a great feeling when this happens as you normally have given up by now of seeing it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just got my pigeon t hat was 1st section f17open alencon back at 6oclock tonight half a tail missing buy god glad shes homeWell done lads,great doo to get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim45 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 I bet you felt like you won it when you seen her its a great feeling when this happens as you normally have given up by now of seeing it againIt felt like the way you must have felt when you won Newbury got all winter to look at her now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moscow master Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Defo a gid doo to admire over the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just got my pigeon t hat was 1st section f17open alencon back at 6oclock tonight half a tail missing buy god glad shes homebrave decision to send it out again.glad its back for yous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestForever74 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 percy got my one i sent he was found dead on a beach in liverpool on sat morning.by a man walking his dog.he was on his back with the breast gone all that way for that to happen not far from home gutted got one of my two sent to Maidstone reported dead in Berwick with a similar fate 3 days after the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 just in from work and a blue cock from clermont waiting to get in burst across the crop but will be ok 8 home now keep coming one more and im over half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim cowie Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Got a cock last night with no rubber or etsNow 2/4. Very happy to see this pencil cock as he is same way bred as my Alencon timer this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newburgh lofts Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Got my bird from clermont reported by a non fancier near portlethen 15 miles from home after flying about 565 mile absolutely flown out he picked him up in his garden yesterday poor bugger tried hard to get home.SO NEAR YET SO FAR !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Thos Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Got my first from three today at 2.00 pm. 1 tail feather left and no primaries on one wing. And guess what I got another at 4.00 pm unscathed but well down in body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee ecky Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 got one from Clermont todayflown down but no injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Got my first one from Clermont, is it in time for the LSC Gold cup LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Got my first one from Clermont, is it in time for the LSC Gold cup LOLwish it counted for ye m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Got my first one from Clermont, is it in time for the LSC Gold cup LOLGood stuff del. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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