North Of Scotland Fed.

[GSD]

I would like to hear PB members views on the following.

 

We had 11 old bird races starting on Saturday 20th April 2013 and had our last old bird race on Sunday 30th June.

 

Our Young Bird programme has 9 races with our first race on Saturday 13th July from Brechin and due to us having such a short time between our OB & YB races it does not give our members much time to train their young birds after the old birds have finished.

During our first 2 young bird races we have English old bird racing still going on from Fraserburgh & Thurso and also some of our members are still competing in the SNFC.

IN MY OPINION next year we should start old bird racing one week later on Saturday 26th April and revert back to 7 young bird races starting on Saturday 26th July as this would give the members extra time for training and also help the race controller concentrate on the young birds instead of having to worry about the English Feds. above us.

If we have only one young bird race from Brechin next year on the 26th July we would get about 2500 birds and just have the lorry going down once instead of 3 times which will happen this year.

It looks like the first 2 young bird races this year are not going to be well supported as there was only 1150 birds at the first race and we will be lucky if we get 750 birds this week.

Thank You

George Duthie

[VAGIN]

I think you are spot on about what your saying . Maybe this should be sorted out at the AGM. Not on a public website No disrespect to anyone

[BLACK W F]

start the first weekend in may early enough and still have a 2 break between old birds and y/bs JMO

[walterbmasson]

start the first weekend in may early enough and still have a 2 break between old birds and y/bs JMO

Allan every year is the same just a small percentage of fanciers are going ta first couple of yb races waiting till they train there birds , theres no better place ta get things ironed out than on sites before agm , get it into fanciers minds what it involves sending lorry with no birds on board is no good well done george in posting this on site for good of fed ?

[robbiedoo.]

I would like to hear PB members views on the following.

 

We had 11 old bird races starting on Saturday 20th April 2013 and had our last old bird race on Sunday 30th June.

 

Our Young Bird programme has 9 races with our first race on Saturday 13th July from Brechin and due to us having such a short time between our OB & YB races it does not give our members much time to train their young birds after the old birds have finished.

During our first 2 young bird races we have English old bird racing still going on from Fraserburgh & Thurso and also some of our members are still competing in the SNFC.

IN MY OPINION next year we should start old bird racing one week later on Saturday 26th April and revert back to 7 young bird races starting on Saturday 26th July as this would give the members extra time for training and also help the race controller concentrate on the young birds instead of having to worry about the English Feds. above us.

If we have only one young bird race from Brechin next year on the 26th July we would get about 2500 birds and just have the lorry going down once instead of 3 times which will happen this year.

It looks like the first 2 young bird races this year are not going to be well supported as there was only 1150 birds at the first race and we will be lucky if we get 750 birds this week.

Thank You

George Duthie

 

I agree with you George why we have 9 young bird races is beyond me when most of the other Feds in the country have 6 or 7 I feel with the 9 races it starts to get boring . May be a good idea like your saying starting the young eens 2 or 3 weeks later this gives the working fanciers more time to school their doos properly and give the family man time to take his wife and kids on a wee holiday without missing a race . It would also save putting more unneeded miles on our lorry which is in its last legs anyway . Whilst we are on the subject does anyone know the reason why Rotherham was dropped from the programme and a needles short race put in instead .

[BLACK W F]

Allan every year is the same just a small percentage of fanciers are going ta first couple of yb races waiting till they train there birds , theres no better place ta get things ironed out than on sites before agm , get it into fanciers minds what it involves sending lorry with no birds on board is no good well done george in posting this on site for good of fed ?

Walter my young ins where well schooled as I had been training before I took 2 weeks holiday and trained them up but I,m lucky I get to pick and choose when I go on holiday

but I still think we start far too early with our old birds and this has a knock on effect there is far too many short races that do no good seems the middle distance points been changed for these short skips but like every one else the AGM is the place to change the program and yes Robbie I agree why change a good m/dist point for a skip JMO

[grdkeith]

not sure i agree with you george,the season is short enough with only 20 races in total so if we only have 7 yb races it is down to only 18. As i see it yb racing is for education with the main thing being returns and the more experience that can be gained the better, it is usually the same guys who have their birds ready in time each year so we would be penalising them to favour those who are not.

Seven races only could be awkward if the weather was poor in the first two or three, while the east section birdage can be affected when there is due to be east in the wind the west side birdage can be reduced when there are strong westerlies forecast, some fanciers enjoy putting their youngsters on darkness and a reduced programme might make it less worth trying, an average of 12/1300 for each of the first two races still has us providing racing at no extra cost to the fed and may mean that people have more confidence in putting there doos to the longer races.

While i am not too keen on this programme i am still happy to have 9 races but i would not have a last short race as every time we have done it the birdage is abysmal and ther race is a non event and loses money. All the best for the rest of the season and keep up the good work

[GSD]

George,

Thanks for your comments but you did not mention my MAIN CONCERN which is that the English Old Bird Racing from Fraserburgh & Thurso is still going on when we start racing our young birds and this influences the race controllers decision to liberate worrying about when the birds above us are being released.

I would still have 2 Brechins & 2 Perths to start with to help educate our Young Birds but the most important thing is for us to start on the 26th of July next year to keep clear of the English Birds.

I would prefer 7 races for the Young Birds but it is up to the FED members to decide.

[ritchie1]

I THINK this is the perfect place to post this . this is where it should be posted .this is what this sites all about views etc of our members .public website is perfect.

yes goerge your spot on . this old bird races on our first 2 races is no use for us . far better idea gives us more time to train both first and second round young birds . plus i think 7 races are plenty . GOOD POST

[Dooheed 5]

Don't get it at all "more time ti train young eens" how much time div yous need ? Excuse's please ! canna be the weather this year surely !! lol

[walterbmasson]

Don't get it at all "more time ti train young eens" how much time div yous need ? Excuse's please ! canna be the weather this year surely !! lol

As i take this post it is ta get clear of the old birds that are coming from the north of us and we all know what it means ta run a fed , you need birds and with oot young birds there is no yearlings etc , and what are you getting out of this first races putting the lorry down with out birds or did you not notice theres no no no birds in the racks , this 9 races have just started a couple of years ago , and going by the look of it the fed is loosing money with all the time , and as posted earlier the lorry needs attention urgently , and with the fraserburgh clubs going with 110 birds between them and elgin 68 this week , wheres the logic of going ta 9 races it does not make sense ?

[BLACK W F]

As i take this post it is ta get clear of the old birds that are coming from the north of us and we all know what it means ta run a fed , you need birds and with oot young birds there is no yearlings etc , and what are you getting out of this first races putting the lorry down with out birds or did you not notice theres no no no birds in the racks , this 9 races have just started a couple of years ago , and going by the look of it the fed is loosing money with all the time , and as posted earlier the lorry needs attention urgently , and with the fraserburgh clubs going with 110 birds between them and elgin 68 this week , wheres the logic of going ta 9 races it does not make sense ?

very good post think it sums it up we start with old birds far too early and the same with y/bs time to revert back to the 2 week break to give us clear skys for our young ins first races 7 races plenty for young ins and yes Walter your bang on 700 birds to our second y/b race speaks for itself JMO