sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks for your support Winning bidders If anything is incorrect please Pm me Lot 1 Sapper756Lot 2 peter2010Lot 3 WileyLot 4 h@wkbaitLot 5 Sapper756Lot 6 bluecockLot 7 WileyLot 8 gordi.bLot 9 b masseyLot 10 gordi.bLot 11 dumyatLot 12 bluedoo1Lot 13 REDROCKETLot 14 Rembrant2cooLot 15 gulkieLot 16 WHITTYLot 17 h@wkbaitLot 18 smilerLot 19 BRYANBROCKLot 20 of one skinLot 21 bluebell101Lot 22 BRYANBROCKLot 23 flying fiferLot 24 JSDLot 25 bluebell101Lot 26 JSDLot 27 jim2123Lot 28 1967Lot 29 sapper756 underbidderLot 30 jim2123Lot 31 pigeonchestedLot 32 1967Lot 33 peter2010 underbidderLot 34 harkyLot 35 JumboLot 36 harkyLot 37 mcgill49Lot 38 REDROCKETLot 39 mcgill49Lot 40 John CummingLot 41 gorsy bank lofts Total is £1127 60% prize money £67640% Arson fund £450 Payment to: PBCF (pigeon basics charity fund) Please put the lot no or your user name on info Cheques to: PBCF (pigeon basics charity fund) c/o Ian McKayKingsleaKingswellsAberdeenAB15 8SL Pay Pal to:marlene.mckay@btinternet.com Choose personal then gift please to avoid us incurring a fee Payment sent by paypalhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0140-rofl.gif
Guest H@wkBait Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 an extra £1 might have got you the lot it is an auction.Stevie i take my hat of to you Barry pushed you in the bidding and at the end your generosity takes over again and Barry gets 2 no doubt well bred yb,s for free.i had to pause before i pressed the 2 as i know what like you are. hope you don,t get to race yb,s next year never mind this year if you catch ma drift.Well pointed out blaz it was an auction so people donating birds should not be aloud to bid on there own birds as its against all auction rules bidding on own lots to drive up the prices is known as shill bidding it shouldnt be aloud
sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Well pointed out blaz it was an auction so people donating birds should not be aloud to bid on there own birds as its against all auction rules bidding on own lots to drive up the prices is known as shill bidding it shouldnt be aloud I believe it was a Breeder/Buyer sale, not an auction.http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif Read the first post on this thread, it clearly states on 3 occasions that it is a SALE! not 1 mention of an AUCTIONhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0127-lipssealed.gifif you enter a bird into your club/fed breeder buyer sale, are you informed you can not bid on your own bird? I don,t think sohttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif
THE FIFER Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 I have yet to go to a club/Fed breeder buyer where you cant bid on your own birds, and to me its the way, its not an auction really its a competition, one of the reasons why you get to bid on your own is if you didnt a lot of entries wouldnt have bids and is very disappointing to the person giving a bird for a cause, and in the end would not give, so please this is always a good competition and also giving to a cause to help others, so dont lets spoil it, we have had lots of those and members bidding on their own birds, and in this one a lot doing so at the very start, WITHOUT COMPLAINTS, so all new it was allowed, please lets enjoy it,
Guest H@wkBait Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 if its a sale there should be no bidding sales should be a set price when biddings involved the person donating should not take part as its shill bidding no matter what way you look at it only time the person donating should buy his own bird is if it dosent sell
sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 if its a sale there should be no bidding sales should be a set price when biddings involved the person donating should not take part as its shill bidding no matter what way you look at it only time the person donating should buy his own bird is if it dosent sell So does your club or fed not have breeder buyer sales? If yes, are the donators refused the right to bid on their own birds? Maybe such posts should be moved to a new thread, so we do not interfer with the good work the admin and Ian have done with this great breeder/ buyer sale
Guest H@wkBait Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 iv never been to a breeder buyer sale so i cant comment on that but i do know what shill bidding is your bid never affected me so il leave it at that just thought i would post my opinion.
sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 iv never been to a breeder buyer sale so i cant comment on that but i do know what shill bidding is your bid never affected me so il leave it at that just thought i would post my opinion.I respect your opinion, how ever I have been to many, breeder/buyer, charity, clearance, SALES, and all were by the means of bidding, Anyway, good luck with your purchase in the breeder/buyer m8
THE FIFER Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 if its a sale there should be no bidding sales should be a set price when biddings involved the person donating should not take part as its shill bidding no matter what way you look at it only time the person donating should buy his own bird is if it dosent sell dont think that would work, you can bid if it don't sell, you would have to wait until the last second of the sale, why is it getting complaints on something that was done and seen from the start, and for a few years, also on most club and fed breeder buyers, it would not be a good rule to say you can only bid on your own bird if it dont sell, http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0127-lipssealed.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0127-lipssealed.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0127-lipssealed.gif. you would have to keep it open for non sold birds, the system allowing fanciers to bid on their own birds is well done throughout,
peter66 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Ian, will get the wife to pay later in the week, when she gets home. Very well done to you all.
demolition man Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Why do people moan and groan about these things is this sale NOT all about helping the arson fund and having a bit of fun to boot?
blaz Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 I believe it was a Breeder/Buyer sale, not an auction. Read the first post on this thread, it clearly states on 3 occasions that it is a SALE! not 1 mention of an AUCTIONif you enter a bird into your club/fed breeder buyer sale, are you informed you can not bid on your own bird? I don,t think so breeder buyer sale birds where sold by auction as their was a starting bid and more bids to follow that to me is an auction. it was for a very good cause to help the fire fund .as for bidding on your own birds long may it last as i think it would put fanciers off if told you can,t bid on your own birds. well done ian on running it.
sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 breeder buyer sale birds where sold by auction as their was a starting bid and more bids to follow that to me is an auction. it was for a very good cause to help the fire fund .as for bidding on your own birds long may it last as i think it would put fanciers off if told you can,t bid on your own birds. well done ian on running it. Fair comment Blazhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0126-nerd.gif
DJWa Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 dont think that would work, you can bid if it don't sell, you would have to wait until the last second of the sale, why is it getting complaints on something that was done and seen from the start, and for a few years, also on most club and fed breeder buyers, it would not be a good rule to say you can only bid on your own bird if it dont sell, . you would have to keep it open for non sold birds, the system allowing fanciers to bid on their own birds is well done throughout, change the format for next year enter a bird into the breeder buyer and you can keep it at a set fee say £25but for every bird you enter and pay to keep ,you must also enter one for auctionwhich you can also bid on this way every donator can have something in his/her loft to race for the prize money if you dont want to race your own bird then dont take up the option of buying them back, just let them all be auctioned simple :emoticon-0167-beer:
flying fifer Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Getting complicated again lads, enter as is or don't enter SMPLES
pigeonchested Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Paid for lot 31by PayPal, thanks
Wiley Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Personally, a breeder buyer is a simple thing. Everyone putting there penny in on how it should be run complicates things, remember this site has been doing a breeder buyer THIS WAY for a few years now, never had any complaints or grumbles in the past. Ian McKay yet again has done the site proud with his organisation skills.
Jumbo Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 Leave the b/b the way it has been run for years, if you are not happy with the way it is done don't participate . Simples As always to many cooks trying to upset things.
Guest lambrechts31 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 A lot of grumpy old geezers again, seems there,s a lot of flaws in these type of sales, answer me this "WHY WOULD YOU ENTER A BIRD THEN BUY IT BACK ?" dont they like the person thats bidding eemm... puts people off jmo....... :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:
just ask me Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 This is the most common way of running breeder buyers clubs and feds all over the country use this method lots of people buy there own birds back I have done it myself its got noting to do with who else had bids on your birds come on lads its not if we gave reinvented the whole way breeder buyers are run and it hasn't worked We used the most popular method Raised a large sum for fanicers that may gave there lofts burned down How can it criticized with the money going to our own im sure the money raised here will make someone a happy person Sending Ian a pm when you seen the way the auction was being run and if you think U had a good idea on how to improve it im sure Ian would take your opinon into consideration At the end of the day Ian for me runs these auctions for pigeon men that find them selves in trouble and for a bit of fun between members in this case with it being a breeder buyer also there run in a highly professional manner with clear transperency Well done Ian and to the doners and bidders is what I say
dal2 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 A lot of grumpy old geezers again, seems there,s a lot of flaws in these type of sales, answer me this "WHY WOULD YOU ENTER A BIRD THEN BUY IT BACK ?" dont they like the person thats bidding eemm... puts people off jmo....... :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:Its a COMPETITION!!! Not just a sale?????
sapper756 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 A lot of grumpy old geezers again, seems there,s a lot of flaws in these type of sales, answer me this "WHY WOULD YOU ENTER A BIRD THEN BUY IT BACK ?" dont they like the person thats bidding eemm... puts people off jmo....... :emoticon-0127-lipssealed: Here are a couple of reasons that may be the case; The individual wants to compete for and win both the breeder & the buyer prize.http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif Their birds is failing to draw bids, and sees this as embarasinghttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif The individual believes his/her bird is worth more than the current bidhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif The individual would rather pay for their bird and compete without having to deal with couriers, and chase others to transfer the birds.http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif Nothing in the rules states that he/she can not bid for their own youngster and race ithttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif Let us recognize the hard work put in by Ian, and enjoy the competition ahead of ushttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0140-rofl.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0140-rofl.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0140-rofl.gif Good Luck to all competinghttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gif As said many times already, this is how this B/B has been run for years , and no grumbles till now, So WELL DONE IANhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gif
THE FIFER Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 This is the most common way of running breeder buyers clubs and feds all over the country use this method lots of people buy there own birds back I have done it myself its got noting to do with who else had bids on your birds come on lads its not if we gave reinvented the whole way breeder buyers are run and it hasn't worked We used the most popular method Raised a large sum for fanicers that may gave there lofts burned down How can it criticized with the money going to our own im sure the money raised here will make someone a happy person Sending Ian a pm when you seen the way the auction was being run and if you think U had a good idea on how to improve it im sure Ian would take your opinon into consideration At the end of the day Ian for me runs these auctions for pigeon men that find them selves in trouble and for a bit of fun between members in this case with it being a breeder buyer also there run in a highly professional manner with clear transperency Well done Ian and to the doners and bidders is what I say well said m8 100%, thats how it has been with basics for ages and other clubs and Feds, and it does the fancy good helping others,
john cumming Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 breeder buyer sale birds where sold by auction as their was a starting bid and more bids to follow that to me is an auction. it was for a very good cause to help the fire fund .as for bidding on your own birds long may it last as i think it would put fanciers off if told you can,t bid on your own birds. well done ian on running it. i agree john
THE FIFER Posted February 17, 2013 Report Posted February 17, 2013 This is the most common way of running breeder buyers clubs and feds all over the country use this method lots of people buy there own birds back I have done it myself its got noting to do with who else had bids on your birds come on lads its not if we gave reinvented the whole way breeder buyers are run and it hasn't worked We used the most popular method Raised a large sum for fanicers that may gave there lofts burned down How can it criticized with the money going to our own im sure the money raised here will make someone a happy person Sending Ian a pm when you seen the way the auction was being run and if you think U had a good idea on how to improve it im sure Ian would take your opinon into consideration At the end of the day Ian for me runs these auctions for pigeon men that find them selves in trouble and for a bit of fun between members in this case with it being a breeder buyer also there run in a highly professional manner with clear transperency Well done Ian and to the doners and bidders is what I say well said m8 100%, thats how it has been with basics for ages and other clubs and Feds, and it does the fancy good helping others, some have gave their views as we have, so think we should bring this discussion to an end and let the thread get on with what it was intended, a bit of fun for those who took part and to up our arson funds which help lots who need it,and the hard work put into running it thanks all .
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