Qu For West Sec/ Lanarkshire Guys?

[W.D.]

Talking with my Dad yesterday and this subject came up?

Last year when the L-Fed went with the SNFC to Ypres, we, thats my Dad and me, were expecting big things from you guys with the amount of doos in the convoy, etc., and we honestly thought you might have dominated the race.

Now this year you decided not to send with the Nat and looking at the 2 results they are on a par with each other.

How do you feel you did this year compared to last years race?

[frank-123]

I thought Lanarkshire done very well out the race both in 2011 and 2012 in fact Ypres has been a very good race for everyone in every section. In my opinion it has been the best race point in any Snfc race over the last five years. A race where anyone could win it.

 

Section E winner's had these position's over the last five years

8th open 3rd open 19th open 10th open 8th open

[W.D.]

I thought Lanarkshire done very well out the race both in 2011 and 2012 in fact Ypres has been a very good race for everyone in every section. In my opinion it has been the best race point in any Snfc race over the last five years. A race where anyone could win it.

 

Section E winner's had these position's over the last five years

8th open 3rd open 19th open 10th open 8th open

Yes, I agree with you that its the fairest race we have Frank, and I'm not taking anything away from anyone who scored. We just thought there would have been a lot more birds in 1st 100 last year with the no.s away to the race. Just asking for some feed back, please dont take this the wrong way.

[JohnQuinn]

Ypres is by far the Fairest race point on the program and it does give every bird in the race an opportunity to win 1st Open. The reasoning behind the way some races turn out is beyond me at times, in this case although the birdage was less than last year the Quality was equal to last year.

Its easy to send 10/20 or more pigeons across the channel when duplicating as you only need one team to compete in 2 or 3 different organisations on the same day, but its highly unlikely that all birds in a big team are able/willing/ready to fly the channel, even when they have all been treated equally.

The quality however will always come to the fore and for that reason i think there is little difference in the numbers in the first 100 Open. jmo.

[Delboy]

Ypres is by far the Fairest race point on the program and it does give every bird in the race an opportunity to win 1st Open. The reasoning behind the way some races turn out is beyond me at times, in this case although the birdage was less than last year the Quality was equal to last year.

Its easy to send 10/20 or more pigeons across the channel when duplicating as you only need one team to compete in 2 or 3 different organisations on the same day, but its highly unlikely that all birds in a big team are able/willing/ready to fly the channel, even when they have all been treated equally.

The quality however will always come to the fore and for that reason i think there is little difference in the numbers in the first 100 Open. jmo.

 

A very accurate assumption John, my thoughts exactly.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Yes, I agree with you that its the fairest race we have Frank, and I'm not taking anything away from anyone who scored. We just thought there would have been a lot more birds in 1st 100 last year with the no.s away to the race. Just asking for some feed back, please dont take this the wrong way.

I can understand why your asking W.D.but total domination by west section fanciers will only happen if we are racing from North Germany, Ypres is a good start to make things fairer but still no where enough to take the terrain of the pennines and the southern uplands out of the equation,.

If only the west had the honeymoon flatlands of the east....lol

 

At the end of the day you can't help where you live, so we will just have to get on with it and enjoy the sport the best we can.

[JohnQuinn]

A very accurate assumption John, my thoughts exactly.

 

Great Minds Derek

[Delboy]

Great Minds Derek

 

 

Fools seldom differ , lol

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Fools seldom differ , lol

expletive remove, whatever you do don't open that second bottle of.bicardi.....lol

[Delboy]

expletive remove, whatever you do don't open that second bottle of.bicardi.....lol

 

 

Im stone cold blootered lol

[JohnQuinn]

Im stone cold blootered lol

 

Am no far behind you

[ALF]

no had much tonight am on training patrol in the morning getting a loan of my wee pal Vincies van to train the yb's this week

[robbiedoo.]

Ypres is by far the Fairest race point on the program and it does give every bird in the race an opportunity to win 1st Open. The reasoning behind the way some races turn out is beyond me at times, in this case although the birdage was less than last year the Quality was equal to last year.

Its easy to send 10/20 or more pigeons across the channel when duplicating as you only need one team to compete in 2 or 3 different organisations on the same day, but its highly unlikely that all birds in a big team are able/willing/ready to fly the channel, even when they have all been treated equally.

The quality however will always come to the fore and for that reason i think there is little difference in the numbers in the first 100 Open. jmo.

 

john you are obviously not very good at geography . look at the distance the north section guys get we dont stand a chance with the little amount of overfly we get compared to some of the other race points there is 30 or 40 miles even more missing some place ? . take a look at a map if our doos in fraserburgh are to take a straight line from ypres to fraserburgh how much dry land would our doos be flying on after the french/belguim coast ? none until it hit our lofts about 480 miles of water do you boys think your doos would fly over that amount of water not a chance i think its about time the west section (IMO the guys in the center of the country ) stopped feeling sorry for them selves and got their finger out. the guys that are at the top of the list when the distance starts increasing you never see them on here moaning why cause they what they and their doos are capable of dooing.i also am not one for thinking that a pigeon should earn a silver award for flying ypres 3 times into the west section 400 and odd miles dear me man we race further than that in our fed races . look at the bluetooners silver award doo maverick that doo had to fly just short of 2000 miles to earn it not half the distance get a grip guys and learn to fly not sprint . rant over good luck to all for clermount

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Partly because of the performances put up by W.D's father from the race and the conversations I've had with him I feel Ypres is the race we in central Scotland have the best chance of winning.

 

However

 

I do feel if the West and the Central area of the SNFC want to win ANY national or indeed "dominate" we need to have a serious rethink on our federation race programmes.Majority rules though

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

john you are obviously not very good at geography . look at the distance the north section guys get we dont stand a chance with the little amount of overfly we get compared to some of the other race points there is 30 or 40 miles even more missing some place ? . take a look at a map if our doos in fraserburgh are to take a straight line from ypres to fraserburgh how much dry land would our doos be flying on after the french/belguim coast ? none until it hit our lofts about 480 miles of water do you boys think your doos would fly over that amount of water not a chance i think its about time the west section (IMO the guys in the center of the country ) stopped feeling sorry for them selves and got their finger out. the guys that are at the top of the list when the distance starts increasing you never see them on here moaning why cause they what they and their doos are capable of dooing.i also am not one for thinking that a pigeon should earn a silver award for flying ypres 3 times into the west section 400 and odd miles dear me man we race further than that in our fed races . look at the bluetooners silver award doo maverick that doo had to fly just short of 2000 miles to earn it not half the distance get a grip guys and learn to fly not sprint . rant over good luck to all for clermount

 

 

Gone yur sel my old son

[Delboy]

john you are obviously not very good at geography . look at the distance the north section guys get we dont stand a chance with the little amount of overfly we get compared to some of the other race points there is 30 or 40 miles even more missing some place ? . take a look at a map if our doos in fraserburgh are to take a straight line from ypres to fraserburgh how much dry land would our doos be flying on after the french/belguim coast ? none until it hit our lofts about 480 miles of water do you boys think your doos would fly over that amount of water not a chance i think its about time the west section (IMO the guys in the center of the country ) stopped feeling sorry for them selves and got their finger out. the guys that are at the top of the list when the distance starts increasing you never see them on here moaning why cause they what they and their doos are capable of dooing.i also am not one for thinking that a pigeon should earn a silver award for flying ypres 3 times into the west section 400 and odd miles dear me man we race further than that in our fed races . look at the bluetooners silver award doo maverick that doo had to fly just short of 2000 miles to earn it not half the distance get a grip guys and learn to fly not sprint . rant over good luck to all for clermount

[Delboy]

Robbie, I think your Geography is a wee bit off m8, Fraserburgh and Peterhead are the furthest EAST in Scotland ( if not Britain )and although you are flying greater distances,doesnt altogether make it the hardest route.Please dont consistently have a go at the west section boys.If you flew in Inverness,like Paul Thompson, I could understand it. Big Stuarts Maverick is a cracker, undoubtedly, and had to put great performances up to win a Silver but what about the guys in the south and east, they could also win a Silver with 3x Ypres.Unfair, I know but still good birds.You cant help your post code and theres good doos everywhere. Enjoy Clermont my old son.

[dawdoo]

Robbie, I think your Geography is a wee bit off m8, Fraserburgh and Peterhead are the furthest EAST in Scotland ( if not Britain )and although you are flying greater distances,doesnt altogether make it the hardest route.Please dont consistently have a go at the west section boys.If you flew in Inverness,like Paul Thompson, I could understand it. Big Stuarts Maverick is a cracker, undoubtedly, and had to put great performances up to win a Silver but what about the guys in the south and east, they could also win a Silver with 3x Ypres.Unfair, I know but still good birds.You cant help your post code and theres good doos everywhere. Enjoy Clermont my old son.

 

yes got to agree,good doos and fanciers everywhere,the fanciers in the north of scotland have had it tough all year as have we all,but i must admit i would rather race doos in aberdeen than ayr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!good luck for the youngsters.