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[just ask me]

falcons are rare and pigeon men are killing a lot of them , this is stated by a wild life officer , Please make a complaint to the BBC after all we are all licence payers and to stated we are killing these birds is tarring us all with the same brush . If you missed the episode heres the link :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hz3s8/Countryfile_13_05_2012/

‎51.16 for start of this crap !!!

also make a complaint to Stuart Wardrop stewartwardrop@rpra.org

Also complaint to the BBC : https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?reset=#anchor

the unions should ask for a apology from the bbc

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

[bombersbullets]

falcons are rare and pigeon men are killing a lot of them

 

the unions should ask for a apology from the bbc

i seen it m8 nasty bbc

[Henrik]

They should also ask for some air time to put our reply across.

[andy Burgess]

the statement was along the lines of Gosshawks being shot by Game-keepers and shooting enthuiasts ,but not all shooters were bad ,theres some very good shoots out there. the Peregrine falcons are being killed by Pigeon Fanciers .the statement could be accepted legally by not naming all as bad in the first part . however the latter part of the statement is wrong in its generalisation .

[Henrik]

Just put a complaint on to the Points of View website and also e-mailed the pigeon racing uk press officer to get him on to it

[THE FIFER]

well thats the chance now for the unions to get their say, but will they ,

[billt]

falcons are rare and pigeon men are killing a lot of them

 

the unions should ask for a apology from the bbc

 

They should take up pigeons they'd soon realise they're not that rare and who nicked that camera

[yeboah]

They have a proper publicity pr machine in place sadly we have not ,men against the boys sad fact but true .

[square_peg]

THEY WILL BE ON HERE NOW WATCHING WHAT WE ARE SAYING......

[Guest bigda]

the statement was along the lines of Gosshawks being shot by Game-keepers and shooting enthuiasts ,but not all shooters were bad ,theres some very good shoots out there. the Peregrine falcons are being killed by Pigeon Fanciers .the statement could be accepted legally by not naming all as bad in the first part . however the latter part of the statement is wrong in its generalisation .

 

nope i think the BBC has come across something and is waiting on a reaction, it might have come from the RSPB but they do not want to be seen defending the pigeon

and having to declare it a protected species, THIS looks like a more of a cover up

waiting to bring out a tv documentary about cruelty so as then THIS GIVES pigeon haters the voice to condemn us, and the RSPB make there grand enterance.

[Guest bluemorning]

it only takes one person to break the law by killing a bop and the rest will be tared by the same brush,any forward movement by the raptor alliance will be a waste of time,as for the rare statement the last count of peregrines was above pre war population, also thousands of people exist today all over the world thanks to the brave little racers whos efforts during the wars saved countless lives, lest we forget

[Guest IB]

Countryfile covers England & Wales only, Scotland has its own version - Landward, which is shown on Fridays.

 

IMO media are too good at coming away with general statements like this, there are websites that you can track wildlife crime, and in Scotland at least there's been no wildlife conviction of a pigeon fancier. BBC are too quick to take anything RSPB says as gospel.

 

Agree with the statement 'tarred with same brush'.

[THE FIFER]

Just put a complaint on to the Points of View website and also e-mailed the pigeon racing uk press officer to get him on to it

 

well done m8

[OLDYELLOW]

falcons are rare and pigeon men are killing a lot of them , this is stated by a wild life officer , Please make a complaint to the BBC after all we are all licence payers and to stated we are killing these birds is tarring us all with the same brush . If you missed the episode heres the link :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hz3s8/Countryfile_13_05_2012/

‎51.16 for start of this crap !!!

also make a complaint to Stuart Wardrop stewartwardrop@rpra.org

Also complaint to the BBC : https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?reset=#anchor

the unions should ask for a apology from the bbc

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[OLDYELLOW]

MY COMPLAINT :

Wildlife officer stating that pigeon fanciers were discriminating against Peregrine Falcons , this was a total disgrace without a shred of evidence just hear say , the facts are that birds of prey (bops ) are killing our hobby , Peregrines championed and man made nest boxes in un-natural habitat on churches all over the country supposedly to control wild feral pigeons . This love of the birds of prey have seen a drastic reduction in small song bird populations in the whole U.K . The R.S.P.B have successfully added more and more birds to the red list whilst boosting the bops numbers beyond natural numbers with a unsustainable level of wild birds to eat . They are a disgrace there not bird lovers they champion bops over every single bird , where are the song birds blue tits wrens chaffinches greenfinches ectra , bops have devistated them now we are the feeding machine of these bops , high time that most of these bops are removed from protected status and controlled to help wild song birds repopulate . The R.S.P.B should be stripped of there Royal status , murderers of british song birds at the cost of the money making land grab of bops , yours sincerely a pigeon Fancier , Mark Kettlestring aka OLDYELLOW

 

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[THE FIFER]

Jennie Wood the Raptor Alliance Reporter, UK PRESS OFFICE TEL:07552/610770>>>>>e-mail: press@pigeonracinguk.co.uk

[OLDYELLOW]

Jennie Wood the Raptor Alliance Reporter, UK PRESS OFFICE TEL:07552/610770>>>>>e-mail: press@pigeonracinguk.co.uk

Sent an email here's reply :

Hi Mark

 

 

Thanks for your email - I'm working with the Raptor Alliance and Countryfile to respond to comments made in the programme.

 

 

I'm angling for some positive coverage of pigeon racing within the programme, particularly as we were recently visited by a writer on its magazine. Rest assured I'll do all that's possible to try and turn this around into a positive media opportunity for the sport.

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

 

Jennie Wood

 

 

On 14 May 2012, at 15:14, BackByDemand@aol.com wrote:

 

 

I have written a complaint to the BBC regarding the deformation of pigeon fanciers on there Countryfile programme 13th of May , http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hz3s8/Countryfile_13_05_2012/

51.16 for start of this interview , complaint below :

Wildlife officer stating that pigeon fanciers were discriminating against Peregrine Falcons , this was a total disgrace without a shred of evidence just hear say , the facts are that birds of prey (bops ) are killing our hobby , Peregrines championed and man made nest boxes in un-natural habitat on churches all over the country supposedly to control wild feral pigeons . This love of the birds of prey have seen a drastic reduction in small song bird populations in the whole U.K . The R.S.P.B have successfully added more and more birds to the red list whilst boosting the bops numbers beyond natural numbers with a unsustainable level of wild birds to eat . They are a disgrace there not bird lovers they champion bops over every single bird , where are the song birds blue tits wrens chaffinches greenfinches ectra , bops have devistated them now we are the feeding machine of these bops , high time that most of these bops are removed from protected status and controlled to help wild song birds repopulate . The R.S.P.B should be stripped of there Royal status , murderers of british song birds at the cost of the money making land grab of bops , yours sincerely a pigeon Fancier , Mark Kettlestring aka OLDYELLOW

 

sent to :

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[OLDYELLOW]

Dear Mark

 

Reference CAS-1450939-MDTLPH

 

Thank you for your feedback about ‘Countryfile’ on Sunday 13 May 2012.

 

I understand you're unhappy with our bird of prey coverage as you feel our report was biased and unfair to pigeon fanciers. I note you feel we failed to provide evidence to back up the claims which were made.

 

While Wildlife Crime Officer Josh Marshall did not explicitly say he was talking about rogue pigeon fanciers, I believe this would have been apparent to viewers bearing in mind the clarification he’d just made about gamekeepers , and the clarification he immediately went on to make about falconers.

 

Here is a transcript of his quote for your information:

 

“With birds of prey the national picture would suggest that with goshawks you’ve got gamekeepers or people associated with the shooting fraternity that may want to poison the birds… not saying that they all do, there’s some really reputable shoots out there as well. And peregrine falcons – again the national picture would suggest they are targeted primarily by pigeon fanciers but also falconers that are a bit unscrupulous and want to take wild birds for their stock.â€

 

Moreover, we believe there is evidence of bird of prey persecution involving rogue pigeon fanciers. For example, it’s our understanding that just five months ago a man who kept homing pigeons in Scotland was found guilty of maliciously shooting and killing a peregrine cross. More recently, police investigating alleged crimes against peregrine falcons raided the home of four pigeon fanciers, resulting in one arrest. The RSBP have told us this is an on-going case under investigation. They have also provided us with evidence of other convictions involving pigeon fanciers going back more than 30 years.

 

We have also put your concerns to Wildlife Crime Officer Marshall. He stands by his statement based on his experience of working with the RSPB and the National Wildlife Crime Unit.

 

I do hope you’ll feel able to accept my explanation and continue to support the programme.

 

Kind regards,

 

Teresa Bogan

Series Producer, Countryfile

 

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Seems they just sweep it under the carpet biased crap and get away with it , surely a crossed falcon aint a protected species anyhow

[ALF]

same here Mark

 

Dear Mr Torrance

 

Reference CAS-1451270-088Q5P

 

Thank you for contacting us regarding, ‘Countryfile’, broadcast on the 13 May 2012.

 

I understand that you feel that it had been incorrect for Josh Marshall, a Wildlife Crime Officer, to suggest that Peregrine Falcons were being targeted by pigeon fanciers. I note that you also feel that due to these birds of prey being protected it’s vastly reducing other bird populations such as song birds.

 

I am sorry to hear that you were unhappy with our bird of prey coverage.

 

While Wildlife Crime Officer Josh Marshall did not explicitly say he was talking about rogue pigeon fanciers, I believe this would have been apparent to viewers bearing in mind the clarification he’d just made about gamekeepers , and the clarification he immediately went on to make about falconers.

 

Here is a transcript of his quote for your information:

 

“With birds of prey the national picture would suggest that with goshawks you’ve got gamekeepers or people associated with the shooting fraternity that may want to poison the birds… not saying that they all do, there’s some really reputable shoots out there as well. And peregrine falcons – again the national picture would suggest they are targeted primarily by pigeon fanciers but also falconers that are a bit unscrupulous and want to take wild birds for their stock.â€

 

Moreover, we believe there is evidence of bird of prey persecution involving rogue pigeon fanciers. For example, it’s our understanding that just five months ago a man who kept homing pigeons in Scotland was found guilty of maliciously shooting and killing a peregrine cross. More recently, police investigating alleged crimes against peregrine falcons raided the home of four pigeon fanciers, resulting in one arrest. The RSBP have told us this is an on-going case under investigation. They have also provided us with evidence of other convictions involving pigeon fanciers going back more than 30 years.

 

We have also put your concerns to Wildlife Crime Officer Marshall. He stands by his statement based on his experience of working with the RSPB and the National Wildlife Crime Unit.

 

I do hope you’ll feel able to accept my explanation and continue to support the programme.

 

Kind regards,

 

Teresa Bogan

Series Producer, Countryfile

www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

[OLDYELLOW]

Well we stood up for ourselves and many other fanciers , guess the bbc can say just about what they want and get away with it and sod offending the viewers that pay there wages