dal2 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 This is where observation comes into play. By sitting on your backside in the loft for hours on end instead of clumping about, chasing birds to handle etc etc, About the only time I handle birds is when they are going in a basket. But then again I do know what I am looking for and more often than not I only send the one. I was commenting on the breeding of the birds, wot the thread was aboot, Some say that the certain birds are for, and will perform, only at the distance stated on their label?I take it you winn with yer 700milers at 200miles?proving the point that the stated distance for each family is open to debate and exceptions? True?
peter pandy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 I only restarted last year but the difference between myself and others is that I have confidence in my ability to get the best out of our feathered friends.
dal2 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 I only restarted last year but the difference between myself and others is that I have confidence in my ability to get the best out of our feathered friends. Good for you fella, best of luck.
AR Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 You must be lookin for lots of exceptions to the distance that you birds are bred for? If you believe that the families only win from the distance set out by the originator of the family? Personally think the bird does not know its a sprinter or other?Got to agree wi you I remember years ago being at Matt mclachlans glencraig when i was a boy just after he won rennes and I was asking him bout different distances. He said son the pigeon doesn't know it's to fly 500 miles it's up to you to make it fly 500 mile. They don't know if they're sprinters or distance birds. I have a hen myself a pure vandenabelle who was 18 open clermont in 2010 and I'm sure velocity was round about 1050 and you'd think she could have flew another 200 mile
dwh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 my honest opinion is that you'll never know if you don't try them and feeding goes a long way towards there performancem8's of mine have a hen which has won bourges 555miles 4 times in succession and is vandenabeele on one and through birds that have never won past clermont 405 miles they had what they call there old bourges hen won it 3 times which is a rene neawlaert and what a lot call middle distance lines this hen has bred umpteen winners but none have won further than clermont
dal2 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 my honest opinion is that you'll never know if you don't try them and feeding goes a long way towards there performancem8's of mine have a hen which has won bourges 555miles 4 times in succession and is vandenabeele on one and through birds that have never won past clermont 405 miles they had what they call there old bourges hen won it 3 times which is a rene neawlaert and what a lot call middle distance lines this hen has bred umpteen winners but none have won further than clermontExceptions!!! Always gan tae happen. Good treatment and keen eye will see to that.
peter pandy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 were would any body get 3 year old pigeons nowadays this is 2012 pigeons dont make it past two unless you keep hundreds or dont race them ,weather,bad libs,radio waves,guns and no 1 hawks pity but true.o and cats and sickness and maybe more i havnt mentioned.Gave a new start 10 young straight from from the nest by my stock birds. 1 returned first time out, "aye thats right". Trained 9 lost 1. Sent 8 racing out to 150 miles dropped 2. Left with 6 which which can't be to bad for a new start.
dwh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Exceptions!!! Always gan tae happen. Good treatment and keen eye will see to that.sure will pity my treatment and eye not quite good enough yet :emoticon-0138-thinking:
andy Burgess Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 sure will pity my treatment and eye not quite good enough yet :emoticon-0138-thinking: you keep PM ing with those snippets from time to time ,thatll do for me .
dwh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 you keep PM ing with those snippets from time to time ,thatll do for me . try my best m8 :emoticon-0140-rofl:
just ask me Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 have a cock that raced very well upto 250 stoped due too injury his children have won federations over the water and bred birds to do 500 mile if there a good one there no stopping them taking a bird after doing 500 mile a few times and wanting to sprint 150 mile races with them maybe a different story as they become more homers than out and out racers jmo
victorious Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Gave a new start 10 young straight from from the nest by my stock birds. 1 returned first time out, "aye thats right". Trained 9 lost 1. Sent 8 racing out to 150 miles dropped 2. Left with 6 which which can't be to bad for a new start. yes thats a good start for him well done him we have to encourage them.
yeboah Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Best hen i ever owned won from shap 60 mls in a south wind cheltenham 240 mls in a east wind and from rennes 500mls into a nw wind 16 1/2 hrs with 7000 odd behind her,got fed same from first race to last race was never treated for anything ,am sure she done this because she was bred the right way had a wonderful constitution and was simply better than her challengers ,oh and should also mention she had no f---- hawks to worry about,still have her g/son 17 yrs old still filling eggs and never had nowt over his throat either pill wise,any new additions to the loft now that take ill dont treat them just bin them ,if the old boy dont take ill why should they ,jmo but everyone to there own
victorious Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Best hen i ever owned won from shap 60 mls in a south wind cheltenham 240 mls in a east wind and from rennes 500mls into a nw wind 16 1/2 hrs with 7000 odd behind her,got fed same from first race to last race was never treated for anything ,am sure she done this because she was bred the right way had a wonderful constitution and was simply better than her challengers ,oh and should also mention she had no f---- hawks to worry about,still have her g/son 17 yrs old still filling eggs and never had nowt over his throat either pill wise,any new additions to the loft now that take ill dont treat them just bin them ,if the old boy dont take ill why should they ,jmo but everyone to there own yes she was a good yin.
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 YOU WILL NEVER NO UNTILL YOU GO.///
novo10 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 You must be lookin for lots of exceptions to the distance that you birds are bred for? If you believe that the families only win from the distance set out by the originator of the family? Personally think the bird does not know its a sprinter or other?ur right mate its all in the feeding
novo10 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 Gave a new start 10 young straight from from the nest by my stock birds. 1 returned first time out, "aye thats right". Trained 9 lost 1. Sent 8 racing out to 150 miles dropped 2. Left with 6 which which can't be to bad for a new start.i will be watching ur results you trying to scare us if your going to nationals let us know leave ours in loft lmao
AR Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 I only restarted last year but the difference between myself and others is that I have confidence in my ability to get the best out of our feathered friends.I'm sure the majority of fanciers have confidence in their ability but it's another thing actually having the ability
novo10 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 I'm sure the majority of fanciers have confidence in their ability but it's another thing actually having the abilityyour right mate
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