Wiley Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 As I've said before I spend a lot a lot of time, concentrating on feed, and it is one of my main subjects that I love to discuss, as I am always on the search to improve my knowledge, and to try and improve and go further then the previous season. Consequently I have been having conversations as of late with many distance men, and a similarity seems to cropping up by some which has intrigued me, and would like to share it with you guys to gather your opinions. This is not what every fancier I spoke to nor will I mention who does this and who does what. However it involves the build up of pigeons with mixtures quiet similar in protein carbs and fats for a period of 14 days, to which they constantly add fats in form of peanuts or sunflower hearts. However 2 days prior to the race the birds no longer receive this equal mixture, but then go onto a mix of diat, with the opinion that the birds would eat extremely well in the crates taking mainly the maize Ect more, due to the fact they have been deprived of it. Would be good to hear anyone's opinion and whether or not they had tried something similar?
Diamond dave Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 Interesting idea mate but can you be sure of what they get fed on route. Surely if maize is fed, it would be in equal parts for all of the birds to eat. What would be very interesting if there is anyone on this site that has convoyed birds to the distance and to ask them what they have fed on route..... D.D.
Wiley Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Posted February 1, 2012 Interesting idea mate but can you be sure of what they get fed on route. Surely if maize is fed, it would be in equal parts for all of the birds to eat. What would be very interesting if there is anyone on this site that has convoyed birds to the distance and to ask them what they have fed on route..... D.D. I've known a few convoyers and feed merchants who supply or supplied our vehicles and they basically said it was an all rounder mixture that was supplied
Guest darren cantrill Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 As I've said before I spend a lot a lot of time, concentrating on feed, and it is one of my main subjects that I love to discuss, as I am always on the search to improve my knowledge, and to try and improve and go further then the previous season. Consequently I have been having conversations as of late with many distance men, and a similarity seems to cropping up by some which has intrigued me, and would like to share it with you guys to gather your opinions. This is not what every fancier I spoke to nor will I mention who does this and who does what. However it involves the build up of pigeons with mixtures quiet similar in protein carbs and fats for a period of 14 days, to which they constantly add fats in form of peanuts or sunflower hearts. However 2 days prior to the race the birds no longer receive this equal mixture, but then go onto a mix of diat, with the opinion that the birds would eat extremely well in the crates taking mainly the maize Ect more, due to the fact they have been deprived of it. Would be good to hear anyone's opinion and whether or not they had tried something similar? ive been chatting to a lad in holland weve been friends for many years im trying to pick his brain constantly i was going to go along with his feeding routine but im intrigued now its a long way off for me but i am planning ahead same as sourcing my birds his routine is a genral build up of food steps up from feeding 2 times a day too 3 times a day 10 days before then a week before 4 times a day till basketing the build up, the extra being foods the pigeons crave peanuts safflower and sunflower hearts and he swears by it i know nothing about distance feeding preparation of birds etc so i will be following your threads closely trying to pick up some hints and clues to help them get home from the distance is my dutch friend pulling my leg? or do people feed this heavily
peter pandy Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 Marathon runners train and eat pure protein till 7 days before the race then cease training apart from a quick jog and go into high carb diet for the race.
Guest LBuddle Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 Interesting idea mate but can you be sure of what they get fed on route. Surely if maize is fed, it would be in equal parts for all of the birds to eat. What would be very interesting if there is anyone on this site that has convoyed birds to the distance and to ask them what they have fed on route..... D.D. All of the International race's are fed 100% Maize in the transporters
JohnQuinn Posted February 1, 2012 Report Posted February 1, 2012 I know a fancier who has fed 50% Gerry Plus and 50% barley for entire seasons, as much as they will eat, and he rattles them in at the distance. Mind you i personally think its got more to do with his motivation methods than the feeding that create the results. jmo.
Tony C Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 As I've said before I spend a lot a lot of time, concentrating on feed, and it is one of my main subjects that I love to discuss, as I am always on the search to improve my knowledge, and to try and improve and go further then the previous season. Consequently I have been having conversations as of late with many distance men, and a similarity seems to cropping up by some which has intrigued me, and would like to share it with you guys to gather your opinions. This is not what every fancier I spoke to nor will I mention who does this and who does what. However it involves the build up of pigeons with mixtures quiet similar in protein carbs and fats for a period of 14 days, to which they constantly add fats in form of peanuts or sunflower hearts. However 2 days prior to the race the birds no longer receive this equal mixture, but then go onto a mix of diat, with the opinion that the birds would eat extremely well in the crates taking mainly the maize Ect more, due to the fact they have been deprived of it. Would be good to hear anyone's opinion and whether or not they had tried something similar? I've a small loft here which house 9 as of yet unpaired w/h cocks. If you fancy it we'll devise a strategy & feeding system and race these cocks with distance in mind. As the actress said to the bishop 'two heads are better than one'
Ian McKay Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Just for Diamond Dave :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Wiley Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Posted February 2, 2012 I've a small loft here which house 9 as of yet unpaired w/h cocks. If you fancy it we'll devise a strategy & feeding system and race these cocks with distance in mind. As the actress said to the bishop 'two heads are better than one' Tony well talk when I pop round some time next week mate if that's alright
paddymac Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 A very good thread and a lot of interest to the members on here looking at the distance including myself. Looking forward to future postings.
THE FIFER Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 A very good thread and a lot of interest to the members on here looking at the distance including myself. Looking forward to future postings. yes agree m8 very informative, well done Wiley
Wiley Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Posted February 2, 2012 ive been chatting to a lad in holland weve been friends for many years im trying to pick his brain constantly i was going to go along with his feeding routine but im intrigued now its a long way off for me but i am planning ahead same as sourcing my birds his routine is a genral build up of food steps up from feeding 2 times a day too 3 times a day 10 days before then a week before 4 times a day till basketing the build up, the extra being foods the pigeons crave peanuts safflower and sunflower hearts and he swears by it i know nothing about distance feeding preparation of birds etc so i will be following your threads closely trying to pick up some hints and clues to help them get home from the distance is my dutch friend pulling my leg? or do people feed this heavily Your Dutch friend Darren wouldn't be pulling your leg, but feeding 4 times a day sounds like a lot of hard work especially if your a working man like myself. We can make racing pigeons so hard, and feeding twice a day for the distance myself seems adequate, however if you have all day to potter about around the lofts to feed 4 times by all means give it a try, your friend may have let you into a big secret. Peanuts, safflower and sunflower pips, are very and in my opinion the most important feed you can use on build up to a race. My own birds would have at least 6 peanuts per day, and sunflower hearts they would receive mixed into the grains. One of the best distance fanciers I know uses safflower as a trapping mix so in fact the birds would get a good dose of safflower morning and night
dal2 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Your Dutch friend Darren wouldn't be pulling your leg, but feeding 4 times a day sounds like a lot of hard work especially if your a working man like myself. We can make racing pigeons so hard, and feeding twice a day for the distance myself seems adequate, however if you have all day to potter about around the lofts to feed 4 times by all means give it a try, your friend may have let you into a big secret. Peanuts, safflower and sunflower pips, are very and in my opinion the most important feed you can use on build up to a race. My own birds would have at least 6 peanuts per day, and sunflower hearts they would receive mixed into the grains. One of the best distance fanciers I know uses safflower as a trapping mix so in fact the birds would get a good dose of safflower morning and nightMy doos dont take peanuts. Saf and sun in a high mix closer tae race
demolition man Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 when going to the longer races i increase the maize and maples to my widowhood mix and increase the peanut intake, i found this works
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 A lot of talk on the peanut front with no mention of peanut oil as an alternative. For a feed the size of peanuts are they really very valuable to our pigeons?? or Is most of the nut of little use and an uneccessary strain on the birds digestion?? Interested to hear the forum's thoughts.Are you a nutter??
Tony C Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Tony well talk when I pop round some time next week mate if that's alright Bring a small bag of your sprint mix with ya so I can have a proper moses at it
demolition man Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 A lot of talk on the peanut front with no mention of peanut oil as an alternative. For a feed the size of peanuts are they really very valuable to our pigeons?? or Is most of the nut of little use and an uneccessary strain on the birds digestion?? Interested to hear the forum's thoughts.Are you a nutter?? tell the birds that they luv peanuts
Tony C Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 tell the birds that they luv peanuts Yep! once they get a taste for them they'll walk over hot coals to get at them.
Tony C Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 A lot of talk on the peanut front with no mention of peanut oil as an alternative. For a feed the size of peanuts are they really very valuable to our pigeons?? or Is most of the nut of little use and an uneccessary strain on the birds digestion?? Interested to hear the forum's thoughts.Are you a nutter?? The only downside to peanuts that I'm aware of is that they can be subject to fungal contamination if kept in warm humid conditions (temps of 30C +). Some peeps nuke them in the microwave for 10 seconds before feeding them to the pigeons to kill off any potential fungus. I myself buy peanuts from a health shop and keep them in the fridge.
demolition man Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 Yep! once they get a taste for them they'll walk over hot coals to get at them. not tried hot coals tony
just ask me Posted February 2, 2012 Report Posted February 2, 2012 The only downside to peanuts that I'm aware of is that they can be subject to fungal contamination if kept in warm humid conditions (temps of 30C +). Some peeps nuke them in the microwave for 10 seconds before feeding them to the pigeons to kill off any potential fungus. I myself buy peanuts from a health shop and keep them in the fridge. i buy them from health shop too but still nuke them i feed very few peanuts these days though just to the young ones for trapping etc
Wiley Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Posted February 2, 2012 Bring a small bag of your sprint mix with ya so I can have a proper moses at itWill do mate. Peanuts at first pigeons can be wary, I tend to feed it to them when rearing then they gobble them with relish. And as tony says they'll go through anything to get them. Best thing is they always have appetite for them which they do not for other grains Another thing that cropped up quiet common was the use of duck or goose fat prior to the race on the grains.
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