rangers & celtic..premiership a no go!

[Guest strapper]

for all those that hoped their team would be joining the premiership...read this...

 

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5690871,00.html

[Guest bigda]

for all those that hoped their team would be joining the premiership...read this...

 

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5690871,00.html

 

that dont mean a thing, if the old sky guy  says jump the EPL  say how  high money talks  ;D ;D

[frank-123]

wait till the  english premiership bubble bursts

every foriegn owner will drop there clubs like a hot tattie leaving them with massive debts

 

then they will be pleading with rangers and celtic

[mark]

wait till the  english premiership bubble bursts

every foriegn owner will drop there clubs like a hot tattie leaving them with massive debts

 

then they will be pleading with rangers and celtic

 

i don't think so  the above two would not cut it in the premiership.

[Guest bakes]

would be good if rangers celtic was in the premier league would see if all the talk of them being able to compete against the likes of man utd,chelsea,arsenal.liverpool

but all to your own some think they can compete some dont it would quiet the people that dont think they can

 

all the best.

[Chris Little]

Wasn't expecting the Auld Firm to get in  :-/

 

Rangers & Celtic are a hell of a lot bigger than most of the Premiership sides and they wouldn't want them in their league booting their ar$es ;D

[Guest bigda]

would be good if rangers Celtic was in the premier league would see if all the talk of them being able to compete against the likes of man utd,chelsea,arsenal.liverpool

but all to your own some think they can compete some don't it would quiet the people that don't think they can

 

all the best.

    do you realize the class of player that played with the old firm and  ran  amok down in england  how come when English teams come up here they  don't win by any more than one goal  with out the help of the ref  i could name a few players Scottish and foreign that   made your  teams  look silly  so don't under estimate  our capabilities  the old firm in england  have there own support

but are  more than likely to take supporters from other county's  so  remember that   they could end up making man u the   third  best supported team  very easly  

[Roland]

Well horses for courses and Celtic and rangers aren't geared up to do any good in the premier. Sure they can and will raise their game the odd time and beat say a liverpool etc.

But to stay pace with the English clubs, especially with the players bought and wages paid, they would have to invest tremedously to live with the bottom six.

As for foriegners taking their money out, if and when the bubble bursts, that is a irrelevancy because they would still be in the market at the going rate the market dictates.

So you bought a house for a million pound. then sell for 850,000, so what you can still buy the same like for like for that same... and leave the cash even and gamble it might drop more even. If it does, buy it back, or similar, and then if and when price stabalize and eventually go up again, whoopi you make more money. Commodaties are good if you don't have to sel. Price is irrelevant when selling to buy anothet because thay will all have had the same cost effectiveness.

Money owed to the banks - which most is, would be devalued. the owners would still be responcible and not the club's asset if any. So if sold on at a loss, the market would reflect as much.

[Guest bigda]

Well horses for courses and Celtic and rangers aren't geared up to do any good in the premier. Sure they can and will raise their game the odd time and beat say a liverpool etc.

But to stay pace with the English clubs, especially with the players bought and wages paid, they would have to invest tremedously to live with the bottom six.

As for foriegners taking their money out, if and when the bubble bursts, that is a irrelevancy because they would still be in the market at the going rate the market dictates.

So you bought a house for a million pound. then sell for 850,000, so what you can still buy the same like for like for that same... and leave the cash even and gamble it might drop more even. If it does, buy it back, or similar, and then if and when price stabalize and eventually go up again, whoopi you make more money. Commodaties are good if you don't have to sel. Price is irrelevant when selling to buy anothet because thay will all have had the same cost effectiveness.

Money owed to the banks - which most is, would be devalued. the owners would still be responcible and not the club's asset if any. So if sold on at a loss, the market would reflect as much.

 

tell me then what player ever came up to scotland and  ran riot  even in a  england shirt

there came a lot with big money values on them but i never seen them shine

[mark]

Wasn't expecting the Auld Firm to get in  :-/

 

Rangers & Celtic are a hell of a lot bigger than most of the Premiership sides and they wouldn't want them in their league booting their ar$es ;D

 

you could both come to the premiership but you would not be winning any trophy's in the premiership you just wouldn't cut it.

[fletch]

 

you could both come to the premiership but you would not be winning any trophy's in the premiership you just wouldn't cut it.

 

have to agree mid table would be an achievment for either one

sorry but JMO

 

[bibendium]

was listening to the debate on talksport last night and the impression I got that a good few premiership clubs(fans)  were running scared of the old firm. And by the way I dont support either so this is not biased in their favour.

 

[Guest bigda]

 

you could both come to the premiership but you would not be winning any trophy's in the premiership you just wouldn't cut it.

 

suppose alex  ferguson was to decide to manage one of the two

;D

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Both Rangers and Celtic oly exist in Scotland because this part of Scotland is ill and think there world is a better place if they beat there old rivals.

 

Truth is the youth of this country are begining to see through this. My daughter and her husband took my Grandson to see Rangers last week.Total cost of there day was £100.Both teams have been paying second rate players for to long.

 

As far a discisions made by governing bodies in order to improve our game, goes this area to puts, Rangers and Celtice needs and wishes first and foremost,before anything eles this has now caught up with them.

 

In addition and because of the above the standard of Scotish football is disgrase,and its hard to see anyway back from this.

 

The end is near

[mac1]

will be like having middlesborough and newcastle back in the premiership ;D

[Roland]

A Bigda even a has been Gazza was too good and took the pee. And in his twilight years there he was running rings around yer - must a 100 or more at least with out counting. :-/

Gosh Martin O'niel took a load of twilight players and dominated just as he and they pleased. Most couldn't have held down a shirt in the English Division 1.

[steve d]

 

tell me then what player ever came up to scotland and  ran riot  even in a  england shirt

there came a lot with big money values on them but i never seen them shine

 

A bloke by the name Paul Gascoigne, not only did he outclass every one in the scottish League at the time, I also recall him scoring a pretty decent goal for England against Scotland. :P :P

 

Terry Butcher also springs to mind. ;)

[Roland]

Terry Hately was dominate up there ... great player that couldn't hold a shirt down here, let alone an England one.

Sutton spring to mind.... Gosh out side or Larsen -PSSSssss He wasnae a Scot, you still have night mare and haven't replace the likes yet.   ;D ;D ;D

[Guest youngzimmy]

IF THEY WERE IN ANY DEEPER WATER THAN THEY ARE IN RIGHT KNOW THEY WOULD BOTH GO UNDER

[Roland]

Marvellous that the managers don't get replaced but leave ...  then hard to replace lol.

Bigda the coffee is brewing and your smelling nothing  :-/  :-/  :)nose must be bunged up lol   ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

what about decanio, Larson, dalglish, mc clair,  bremner, law, Jordan,   down in england  short memory's guys,    and the all played for there country's  and never  :Xgret once

[Guest bigda]

Marvellous that the managers don't get replaced but leave ...  then hard to replace lol.

Bigda the coffee is brewing and your smelling nothing  :-/  :-/  :)nose must be bunged up lol   ;D ;D ;D

 

roland  your tea "s  out   what was the first team in Britain to win the European  cup again yep thats right Glasgow Celtic

and had they  been given the same amount of TV money  after all we  live on the same island, we would still be dominating the game today,   and we have teams up here who are not that far short  of winning in england,  as like a lot of players in england have  no ambition  to come here, as they know  up here you cant hide from putting in a shift,

there are clubs in england that have  never won a trophy,   or been in a final,  never been in any European  game,   the players in those teams are quite  happy taking money from the TV, going through the motions of playing football, having and knowing  that they will never get a winers medal where they are  as like the fans that support them  don't care  ether as the money thrown at the owners  shrug there shoulders every year  and say  we will try harder next year,   you tell me,  all i hear from them and it is a good get out clause is its better football down there  yet  ask them to come  and the reason is don't want to in case they get exposed, as they are  crap  and thats  a fact    just happy playing way  2 bit clubs   very sad and i feel it for the supporters that  haven't realized it all though years  going to the games for some  odd  30 years and won nothing zilch   ;D ;D so sad

[Tony C]

Yes open up the Premiership, bring two teams in from the SPL but not either of the old firm. Should they be relegated they'll go back into the SPL with £60m+ parachute payment plus revenue made throughout the year, give them something to challenge the big two with.

[pigeonpete]

Terry Hately was dominate up there ... great player that couldn't hold a shirt down here, let alone an England one.

Sutton spring to mind.... Gosh out side or Larsen -PSSSssss He wasnae a Scot, you still have night mare and haven't replace the likes yet.   ;D ;D ;D

 

who was terry hately  ;D ;D i remember a mark hately :-)

[Roland]

Thanks Pete lol  

Bigda like the renoun 5 Great Scots you can't remember the 6th lol.

As for what about decanio, Larson, dalglish, mc clair,  bremner, law, Jordan,  Different eras to make a half a side side....

Remember the world Cup winners ALL class acts and not counting argueable our best Striker ever Jimmy Greaves etc.

But Bigda, you forget it is only after they big pay days are over here that that step down and play easy footie for a decent wage rather than go down  2 - 4 league tables here for less merit, but VERY good supporters cheers. :P

Mind I also have stated that many great sides have a great scot in them. Gemmil, strachen etc. to add to those you've mentioned.

But you know, as your mate Thatcher would say, 'One swallow doesn't make a summer'.