Parastop

[Guest geordiejen]

hi does anyone use parastop and do you know if its an antibiotic?

[b.massey]

yes and yes

[lanarkshire lad]

hi does anyone use parastop and do you know if its an antibiotic?

Yes ive used it i think it contains furazolidon.I wont use it again another money making racket IMO better to vaccinate for paratuphus when coming out the nest JMO

[tiger]

just bought a tub £ 72

[andy Burgess]

just bought a tub £ 72

its not a cheap product then ??

[b.massey]

Worth every penny Andy

[adam owen]

alot of people use it in my area ect in october time with old birds most again the jab my self av never used eather .if you do the old birds with it in october do u need to give it the ybs b4 racing then

[tiger]

its not a cheap product then ??

ur right but hey thats life

[clockman]

just bought a tub £ 72

 

you got robbed,

[deb]

hi does anyone use parastop and do you know if its an antibiotic?

 

Better to vaccinate for para typhoid. Cheaper and much more effective

[tiger]

you got robbed,

bein robbed many times . :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[clockman]

bein robbed many times . :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

 

robinbastards,

[tiger]

robinbastards,

naw ur just a tight a rse

[Guest IB]

Better to vaccinate for para typhoid. Cheaper and much more effective

 

Seems you're right Debbie, found this post on it by David Parsons. Going by what he says, Parastop seems a waste of time & money, and users may be misguided into believing their birds are protected against salmonella infection:-

 

It all depends on whether or not you have been unfortunate to suffer from Paratyphoid. The vaccine will give long term protection whilst the parastop at best will give protection whilst on treatment and for a few days after. It may also make the birds more susceptible to picking up any infection left in dirt and dust in the loft. Salmonella will survive a year or more in dust.

 

If they were my birds and I would use the vaccine. For clients that are just starting down this road I also advise 3 or 5 days of amoxycillin before vaccination.

 

David

[clockman]

naw ur just a tight a rse

 

gibbo said yours was,

[adam owen]

never used eather never had any issues with not using it

[jakjak]

Used it once.......couldnt see any benefits........so I aint bought it since.

I know a couple of guys who swear by it

[sammy]

THINK IT ONLY HAS ITS USES IF YOUR PIGEONS HAVE WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO TREAT SO WOULD N T IT BE BETTER TO HAVE THEM TESTED FIRST

[Guest geordiejen]

ive got a book here with products in it.parastop sounds the bees knees for keeping salmonella and e-coli at bay but if its an antibiotic then its not for me.

[Guest IB]

ive got a book here with products in it.parastop sounds the bees knees for keeping salmonella and e-coli at bay but if its an antibiotic then its not for me.

 

It is an antibiotic and that antibiotic is in the same class as Baytril.

 

If fanciers keep using Parastop, and bacteria become resistant to it, then being the same class as Baytril, those bacteria become resistant to Baytril too.

 

Baytril is reckoned to be our last weapon against Salmonella. If we lose Baytril, there's no other antibiotic to replace it.

[greenlands]

It is an antibiotic and that antibiotic is in the same class as Baytril.

 

If fanciers keep using Parastop, and bacteria become resistant to it, then being the same class as Baytril, those bacteria become resistant to Baytril too.

 

Baytril is reckoned to be our last weapon against Salmonella. If we lose Baytril, there's no other antibiotic to replace it.

 

Would you put the para.vaccine that fanciers use in the same category,used every year would this then become useless,for want of a better word.

[Guest IB]

Would you put the para.vaccine that fanciers use in the same category,used every year would this then become useless,for want of a better word.

 

I think they are 3 different things. The antibiotic is used when salmonella may not be present so cannot offer any protection for the bird against the disease; the vaccine introduces the bird to a dead form of the bacteria which stimulates the bird's immune system to react against the bacteria. Once this happens, the birds immune system retains a memory of it and the next time it meets the real thing, there will be an instant defence reaction with an antibody specifically designed to kill that type of bacteria.

 

Controversy arises with an annual vaccine regime: no-one has been able to prove how long this 'immune memory' lasts. If it is more than one year, the consequences for a bird that has been previously vaccinated, or has already met the real disease, is quite simple, it already has the memory, and the antibodies, and these will inactivate the newly injected vaccine.

 

Been talking about this one for 6 years now. Doesn't time fly. But 2012 is the year the Government-sponsored research into vaccination and how it works is due to report. That research started back in 2006. Hopefully we'll have all the answers soon.

[deb]

ive got a book here with products in it.parastop sounds the bees knees for keeping salmonella and e-coli at bay but if its an antibiotic then its not for me.

Trouble is,the people who write these books,are useally being funded by the copanys selling these mirricle products.Just vaccinate them with a live vacciene,once a year and swollen joints and dead in the shell babies,will be a distant memorie.Deb

[Guest geordiejen]

we should all know pmv is a virus and annually injection of that is a must,however their is evidence that pmv is manifesting itself in other forms which could be down to our injecting of the birds.salmonela shouldnt be a problem in our lofts but it seems to raise its ugly head at some point.almost all of my adult birds have never shown any signs of salmonella but on occasions the odd youngster has the signs of it in the nest or when weaned.ybs is a mixture of virus and bacterial so where does it come from?

[deb]

we should all know pmv is a virus and annually injection of that is a must,however their is evidence that pmv is manifesting itself in other forms which could be down to our injecting of the birds.salmonela shouldnt be a problem in our lofts but it seems to raise its ugly head at some point.almost all of my adult birds have never shown any signs of salmonella but on occasions the odd youngster has the signs of it in the nest or when weaned.ybs is a mixture of virus and bacterial so where does it come from?

Your adult birds can carrie salmonella and never show any signs of ilness.So it is very easy to have birds that are carriers,or bring a bird in that carries salmonella,or have your birds penned in a race basket or at a show with a carrier.If your sheds are free from vermin,there is only one other place the young birds can be infected from. Deb